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DemocraticVoiceOfReason
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S.C.C.C. tuition is $3,384 per year -- and they estimate that 1,000 students will use the Albany campus --- simple math (that even a 4th grader could do) tells you this translates into $3,384,000 in tuition payment which is 28 times greater than the $120,000 cost for leasing the space.  

It is clearly a win-win-win for EVERYONE ...  the college, the counties involved, the students and the taxpayers.


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S.C.C.C. tuition is $3,384 per year -- and they estimate that 1,000 students will use the Albany campus --- simple math (that even a 4th grader could do) tells you this translates into $3,384,000 in tuition payment which is 28 times greater than the $120,000 cost for leasing the space.  

It is clearly a win-win-win for EVERYONE ...  the college, the counties involved, the students and the taxpayers.


that's ONLY the lease....you forgot the cost of the overhead extortion under the guise of higher ed.


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that's ONLY the lease....you forgot the cost of the overhead extortion under the guise of higher ed.


I am very well aware that there are other costs beyond the cost of leasing the space.  There is a cost for offering the courses at the Schenectady campus as well.  

The FACT is that you claim that the community college will not get back anywhere near the $120,000 lease cost--- when the FACT is that if 1,000 students enroll and pay full tuition the community college will get back 28 TIMES the cost of the lease -- which is a hell of lot MORE than the lease cost and not less than the lease cost as you stated.

Furthermore, none of the constant complainers/nayboobs have actually provided ANY proof that this proposal is a bad thing for the community college nor the county.   The only thing you and your ilk have come up with are a lot of  whining and foot-stamping and infantile cries of "no, no, no".


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I am very well aware that there are other costs beyond the cost of leasing the space.  There is a cost for offering the courses at the Schenectady campus as well.  

The FACT is that you claim that the community college will not get back anywhere near the $120,000 lease cost--- when the FACT is that if 1,000 students enroll and pay full tuition the community college will get back 28 TIMES the cost of the lease -- which is a hell of lot MORE than the lease cost and not less than the lease cost as you stated.

Furthermore, none of the constant complainers/nayboobs have actually provided ANY proof that this proposal is a bad thing for the community college nor the county.   The only thing you and your ilk have come up with are a lot of  whining and foot-stamping and infantile cries of "no, no, no".


OK genius, so defend your statement that I shouwed you was wrong:
DVOR STATES: "a) Albany County will have to make payments TO Schenectady County for each Albany County student that attends SCCC."
Truth is: Only if they go to SCCC in Sch'dy. They only pay if the student goes OUT OF THE COUNTY...so you are wrong (AGAIN)! The new facility is IN ALBANY COUNTY!...So how is it that Albany will have to pay SCHDY for these students??????????

HOW ABOUT FOR ONCE YOU ANSWER SOMETHING INSTEAD OF SHYING AWAY FROM IT?  PROVE ME WRONG OR ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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McCoy expects the new SCCC satellite site will save the county money as more students choose to attend SCCC.
"It's a lot cheaper," McCoy said, referring to the county's cost for students who attend SCCC vs. HVCC.
The county has feuded with HVCC over the cost of chargebacks. In 2011 HVCC represented about 90 percent of Albany's college tuition payment obligations. According to 2013 executive county budget, payments to HVCC were $8,733,814 in 2011 of the total $9,851,485 chargeback payments, while payments to SCCC in 2011 were just $273,382.
According to Albany County, in the 2012-13 school year chargebacks at HVCC for each full-time equivalent student taking 15 credits are $1,370 each semester. SCCC's chargeback rate is $150, though that number is extremely low in part due to a previous year's overcharge. Going forward, though, the county still expects SCCC's rate will be about $1,000 cheaper than HVCC.


Albany County will be paying the chargeback fee whether the Albany county resident takes courses at the Schenectady campus or the Albany campus.  And don't forget 1,000 additional students paying over $3,000 in tuition is nothing to sneeze at either.

The name of the game in higher education is enrolling MORE students in the classroom -- that is why successful colleges and universities offer satellite campuses, online courses and more convenient class schedules (weekend, Saturdays, etc. ) ....   to INCREASE the number of students enrolled in its programs.  

Schenectady County Community College has been, is and will continue to be a successful and well-acclaimed  institution of higher education.  And this is because of the great leadership at the college and at the county.


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McCoy expects the new SCCC satellite site will save the county money as more students choose to attend SCCC.
"It's a lot cheaper," McCoy said, referring to the county's cost for students who attend SCCC vs. HVCC.
The county has feuded with HVCC over the cost of chargebacks. In 2011 HVCC represented about 90 percent of Albany's college tuition payment obligations. According to 2013 executive county budget, payments to HVCC were $8,733,814 in 2011 of the total $9,851,485 chargeback payments, while payments to SCCC in 2011 were just $273,382.
According to Albany County, in the 2012-13 school year chargebacks at HVCC for each full-time equivalent student taking 15 credits are $1,370 each semester. SCCC's chargeback rate is $150, though that number is extremely low in part due to a previous year's overcharge. Going forward, though, the county still expects SCCC's rate will be about $1,000 cheaper than HVCC.


Albany County will be paying the chargeback fee whether the Albany county resident takes courses at the Schenectady campus or the Albany campus.  And don't forget 1,000 additional students paying over $3,000 in tuition is nothing to sneeze at either.

The name of the game in higher education is enrolling MORE students in the classroom -- that is why successful colleges and universities offer satellite campuses, online courses and more convenient class schedules (weekend, Saturdays, etc. ) ....   to INCREASE the number of students enrolled in its programs.  

Schenectady County Community College has been, is and will continue to be a successful and well-acclaimed  institution of higher education.  And this is because of the great leadership at the college and at the county.


You still don't get it....McCoy is ALBANY COUNTY EXEC and he's talking about saving ALBANY COUNTY MONEY, and ALBANY COUNTY does not pay SCHDY COUNTY ANYTHING for students UNLESS THEY ATTEND SCHOOL IN SCHDY COUNTY....and new location is IN ALBANY......CAN'T YOUUNDERSTAND THATA? That's why your statement is WRONG!!!!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Instead of running one campus right try ruining two badly? Albany County students will still flock to HVCC. HVCC offers engineering and focuses on sciences and math. SCCC focuses on culinary where there are fewer opportunities.  
     Another attempt by the DEM machine to increase crashing revenues and open another funding supply.
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Of course, DV doesn't have a clue.   He spews nonsense babble based on a newspaper story that doesn't tell the whole picture.   He doesn't take into account that the taxpayers largely are paying the tuition (all those tuition aid and grants programs). he doesn't figure in the cost of the high paid teachers, their multitude of insurances, and of course the lavish pensions.

No wonder why DV has been unemployed for so long, no wonder why DV is not a responsible, self-supporting, independent adult with a place of his own.   He can't comprehend finances, budgets, taxes, which is obviously why the loser has to live with two "mommies" -- he maxed out on welfare , what was it, 5 years -- so he can't live like a NORMAL adult man.

And he STILL will not provide any EVIDENCE of how things have improved in the city--not a teeny weeny shred of evidence!





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You still don't get it....McCoy is ALBANY COUNTY EXEC and he's talking about saving ALBANY COUNTY MONEY, and ALBANY COUNTY does not pay SCHDY COUNTY ANYTHING for students UNLESS THEY ATTEND SCHOOL IN SCHDY COUNTY....and new location is IN ALBANY......CAN'T YOUUNDERSTAND THATA? That's why your statement is WRONG!!!!!!!


You still don't get it --- I suggest that you read the Daily Gazette (the original article and the editorial today) and actually become informed on the subject.   Albany County WILL PAY a chargeback to Schenectady County for any student attending the Schenectady Campus AND the Albany Campus.

You are as wrong on this subject as you were on the "frankenfruit" issue and so many other issues that you shoot your mouth off on -- but don't actually know a damn thing about.


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You still don't get it --- I suggest that you read the Daily Gazette (the original article and the editorial today) and actually become informed on the subject.   Albany County WILL PAY a chargeback to Schenectady County for any student attending the Schenectady Campus AND the Albany Campus.

You are as wrong on this subject as you were on the "frankenfruit" issue and so many other issues that you shoot your mouth off on -- but don't actually know a damn thing about.


I don't get the gazette, so the only article I read was the Albany article linked in this thread....so show me the Gazette article  that proves Albany will pay Schdy for students attending the Albany campus location.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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