Quoted from rpforpres

Box why pro gun crowd?  Why not pro second ammendment crowd, why not pro Constitution crowd. Everyone in that picture no matter how YOU feel about them are law abiding people and have NOT killed anyone. I'd rather have Palin by my side or hell even Nuggent rather than Cuomo if there were an intruder breaking into my home.

If the person breaking into your home had an AR15, with armor piercing rounds and Teflon coated bullets,
loaded into 100 round magazines... you could thank everyone in that picture.

Thank Cuomo and Americans like him,  if those items are banned.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

If the person breaking into your home had an AR15, with armor piercing rounds and Teflon coated bullets,
loaded into 100 round magazines... thank Cuomo and Obama for making laws for them to ignore.


Newsflash.

Criminals, by definition, ignore laws.
The laws were written to punish law abiding gun owners.
Criminals remain unaffected by the new tougher laws.
So when the next nutjob executes 20 children, don't ask how it happened?

NewsFLASH!!!
Oh wait... that's way too small...

~~~~~~~******* NewsFLASH!!!*******~~~~~~~

"So when the next nutjob executes 20 children, don't ask how it happened?"
I won't ask how it happened... Gun Huggers, the NRA and people like L4Life allowed it to happen.

Box--you should run for office.  You come out on the right side of the issues each time.  BTW you NRA Lovers...time to speak to the Siena grad at the top...he's ruining their brand.  NRA will never come up from under this stupidity.

Quoted from Box A Rox

NewsFLASH!!!
Oh wait... that's way too small...

~~~~~~~******* NewsFLASH!!!*******~~~~~~~

"So when the next nutjob executes 20 children, don't ask how it happened?"

I won't ask how it happened... Gun Huggers, the NRA and people like L4Life allowed it to happen.

So you will blame the gun nuts and the NRA for limp dick laws aimed at the law abiding gun owners,
that failed to stop anything?

Of course, the law abiding citizens must be at fault, your masters could never be wrong.

How the hell could you consider it the NRA or the gun nuts to be at fault for your new gun laws that fail?

Are you admitting the gun laws won't address/prevent the Sandy Hook type incidents at all?

Quoted from Box A Rox

NewsFLASH!!!
Oh wait... that's way too small...

~~~~~~~******* NewsFLASH!!!*******~~~~~~~

"So when the next nutjob executes 20 children, don't ask how it happened?"
I won't ask how it happened... Gun Huggers, the NRA and people like L4Life allowed it to happen.

It's more than that, Box... Just about every mass shooting required a mentally ill person FIRST, and a gun SECOND. Without the first, the second doesn't hurt anyone. Take a read of this PBS article about the De-Institutionalizing of the mentally ill. This has as much or more to do with the mass killing issue than ANY weapon.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/asylums/special/excerpt.html

Quoted from 55tbird

It's more than that, Box... Just about every mass shooting required a mentally ill person FIRST, and a gun SECOND. Without the first, the second doesn't hurt anyone. Take a read of this PBS article about the De-Institutionalizing of the mentally ill. This has as much or more to do with the mass killing issue than ANY weapon.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/asylums/special/excerpt.html

I somewhat agree...
The mentally ill, who in the past were institutionalized, are now thrown into the street
to fend for themselves.  Many of the homeless would have been in institutions in past times.

Once a mentally ill person decides to kill, the availability of guns is the next issue.  Same day gun sales,
no background check, and private sales or gun show sales all help the mentally ill (or a terrorist)
to obtain the means of a mass shooting.

Quoted from 55tbird

It's more than that, Box... Just about every mass shooting required a mentally ill person FIRST, and a gun SECOND. Without the first, the second doesn't hurt anyone. Take a read of this PBS article about the De-Institutionalizing of the mentally ill. This has as much or more to do with the mass killing issue than ANY weapon.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/asylums/special/excerpt.html

Correct. The formula is crazy person plus a weapon equals death and injury.

Weapons of all sorts are still available.

Crazy people are often quite creative.

The new laws target and restrict law abiding gun owners.

Crazy people will continue to do crazy things resulting in death and injury.

Crazy gun laws won't stop anything.

The biggest mass murderers in US history were medical professional angels of death.

Everything today has to be a gigantic panic driven overreaction to anything that happens.

The tylenol killer changed the packaging of everything forever.

Crackheads stealing crap changed the way everything is packaged into packages that can't be
opened without a weapon.

Hell, just legalize kevlar for kids. Call them school safety uniforms.

Quoted from Box A Rox

I somewhat agree...
The mentally ill, who in the past were institutionalized, are now thrown into the street
to fend for themselves.  Many of the homeless would have been in institutions in past times.

Once a mentally ill person decides to kill, the availability of guns is the next issue.  Same day gun sales,
no background check, and private sales or gun show sales all help the mentally ill (or a terrorist)
to obtain the means of a mass shooting.

Now does the "mentally ill" or "terrorist" get due process guaranteed under the Constitution before taking away his second amendment rights, or is his/her right to a gun determined by technocrats in government, medical doctors, and law enforcement?

Quoted from CICERO

Now does the "mentally ill" or "terrorist" get due process guaranteed under the Constitution before taking away his second amendment rights, or is his/her right to a gun determined by technocrats in government, medical doctors, and law enforcement?

No due process. The only rights they have are the right to be victims.

Quoted from Yossi

Box--you should run for office.  You come out on the right side of the issues each time.  BTW you NRA Lovers...time to speak to the Siena grad at the top...he's ruining their brand.  NRA will never come up from under this stupidity.

you're right...the NRA will not come up from under this and neither will you, I or our posterity....

it's insidious what exactly is being 'pushed through'....

we will all be eating crow under the guise of safety.....

show me the $$ trail(add/adhd/anti depressants/mental health etc etc)......the diagnosis and the drugs....

having cake and eating it....satiation is very very very very dangerous in communal living called civilized....

Quoted from Box A Rox

I somewhat agree...
The mentally ill, who in the past were institutionalized, are now thrown into the street
to fend for themselves.  Many of the homeless would have been in institutions in past times.

Once a mentally ill person decides to kill, the availability of guns is the next issue.  Same day gun sales,
no background check, and private sales or gun show sales all help the mentally ill (or a terrorist)
to obtain the means of a mass shooting.

who is reasonable to deem them such?...if you have a great good friend, who YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THEIR DIAGNOSIS,
which may or may not be truthful, and you both go hunting and you have him/her hold your gun, they take off and
decide to kill other humans, what are you in the scenario?

1. the person responsible?
2. the person in the dark?
3. the person who is deemed reasonable?
etc etc etc.....

ie: did you drive the get away car?

10 or 7 rounds in the chamber(and don't go all detail on me, pretend you both were practicing with a gun with magazine
of 7, because you can), and that person decides to go 'postal' with 7 rounds and 7 rounds hit their mark, dead or
maimed it really doesn't matter....

what's the next step?

show me your papers and let me scan your iris?

Quoted from rpforpres

A new Ron Paul groupie poster!