Again you can't legislate evil and you CAN'T legislate stupidity.
But they try and they always fail, stupidity is self correcting in this world
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
But they try and they always fail, stupidity is self correcting in this world
~ You can legislate gun locks for every gun... ~ You can legislate mandatory training programs for any one buying a gun... ~ You can legislate mandatory background checks for every gun sold... ~ You can legislate a tracking system for every gun owned in the country... ~ You can... Or you could if the GunHuggers would let it happen.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
~ You can legislate gun locks for every gun... ~ You can legislate mandatory training programs for any one buying a gun... ~ You can legislate mandatory background checks for every gun sold... ~ You can legislate a tracking system for every gun owned in the country... ~ You can... Or you could if the GunHuggers would let it happen.
Gun locks are given away for free a gun stores, you can't enforce people to use them. Every house is different, a family with small kids is not the same as a family of older people who know how to use the guns.
Training programs are great but again won't stop illegal gun sales with stolen weapons. I believe everyone should know the insides and out of their firearms and how to use them properly.
I'm ok with background checks even though fact is they don't stop or prevent crime.
Its impossible to track guns in this country, there are only estimates about how many guns are actually here and the difference is in the millions.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Gun locks are given away for free a gun stores, you can't enforce people to use them. Every house is different, a family with small kids is not the same as a family of older people who know how to use the guns.
Yea...it's way different... Adam Lanza was in a family of "older people who know how to use guns". A gun lock or a gun safe could have saved 26 lives... and as I keep posting... Adams mom had guns in the home to protect her... as I have been posting for two months... The gun she bought to protect her, took her life... ask Mrs Lanza!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yea...it's way different... Adam Lanza was in a family of "older people who know how to use guns". A gun lock or a gun safe could have saved 26 lives... and as I keep posting... Adams mom had guns in the home to protect her... as I have been posting for two months... The gun she bought to protect her, took her life... ask Mrs Lanza!
A very rare story, but if you want to go that route I could make a case that locking up Obama will save hundreds of kids lives as well.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
A very rare story, but if you want to go that route I could make a case that locking up Obama will save hundreds of kids lives as well.
Squirm... wiggle... why not change the subject to abortion Henry??? HUH?
Why not change the subject to Vietnam Vets and cupcakes???
Why do I bother!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Squirm... wiggle... why not change the subject to abortion Henry??? HUH?
Why not change the subject to Vietnam Vets and cupcakes???
Why do I bother!
You seem to ignore what I posted, you somehow believe that every family with a gun has to obey the same rules no matter the training or what make up the family is. I don't believe a family who knows how to use the guns in their house need to lock them up, now those with little ones should lock them up until the kids are old enough to respect them.
And just because you asked here ya go
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
As I posted earlier today... your video says much more about the poster than it does about it's content.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You seem to ignore what I posted, you somehow believe that every family with a gun has to obey the same rules no matter the training or what make up the family is. I don't believe a family who knows how to use the guns in their house need to lock them up, now those with little ones should lock them up until the kids are old enough to respect them.
And just because you asked here ya go
No matter how well trained or experienced a gun user/owner is, accidents happen. If using a gun safe or trigger lock offers even 1/10% added safety to avoid a potential accident, then why not? Isn't it always better to err on the side of safety than not? Can't imagine how you would feel if there was an accident in your house that might have been avoided if only a trigger lock or safe were used. I think it is small price to pay.
How many such accidents have been posted on this forum that are exactly that situation. I know the explanation could be made that they weren't educated on gun safety....but reality is we don't know that and it's not always the case. ACCIDENTS!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
No matter how well trained or experienced a gun user/owner is, accidents happen. If using a gun safe or trigger lock offers even 1/10% added safety to avoid a potential accident, then why not? Isn't it always better to err on the side of safety than not? Can't imagine how you would feel if there was an accident in your house that might have been avoided if only a trigger lock or safe were used. I think it is small price to pay.
How many such accidents have been posted on this forum that are exactly that situation. I know the explanation could be made that they weren't educated on gun safety....but reality is we don't know that and it's not always the case. ACCIDENTS!
Absolutely correct.
Now for my nutjob theory that you all have come to expect.
Gun safety should be taught in schools.
Driving safety is taught because car owners accidentally kill themselves and others.
Gun safety isn't part of public safety that should be taught to everyone?
No matter how well trained or experienced a gun user/owner is, accidents happen. If using a gun safe or trigger lock offers even 1/10% added safety to avoid a potential accident, then why not? Isn't it always better to err on the side of safety than not? Can't imagine how you would feel if there was an accident in your house that might have been avoided if only a trigger lock or safe were used. I think it is small price to pay.
How many such accidents have been posted on this forum that are exactly that situation. I know the explanation could be made that they weren't educated on gun safety....but reality is we don't know that and it's not always the case. ACCIDENTS!
A loaded gun is loaded for a reason, everyone in a house with a loaded gun should know how to use it and realize it is loaded so they treat it as such, all guns should be treated as loaded anyways. Accidents do happen but 99% of the time it is human error when it comes to guns, there are cases where a gun malfunctions and goes off unexpectedly but even then guns shouldn't be pointed at anything not wanting to be destroyed. Box brought up safety courses and I do like that idea for some, especially if they weren't raised around firearms. But again not all gun owners have guns for the same purpose so gun locks aren't the best option for some, take those who have a gun for home defense they want their gun to be quickly accessible, the last thing they don't want is trying to remember a combination number at 3 in the morning when someone is kicking in their door.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
A loaded gun is loaded for a reason, everyone in a house with a loaded gun should know how to use it and realize it is loaded so they treat it as such, all guns should be treated as loaded anyways.
Adam Lanza fits your description. HE knew how to use it.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box brought up safety courses and I do like that idea for some, especially if they weren't raised around firearms. But again not all gun owners have guns for the same purpose so gun locks aren't the best option for some, take those who have a gun for home defense they want their gun to be quickly accessible, the last thing they don't want is trying to remember a combination number at 3 in the morning when someone is kicking in their door.
Knowing how to use a gun... is a relative term. I'm sure that many people who accidentally shoot themselves fit Henry's description of "knowing how to use a gun" yet they shoot themselves or others by accident.
Just a note about "knowing"... When we went to the rifle range in boot camp, the DI asked if any one had shot rifles or pistols in competition... a few had. He had them stand in the center of the squad bay. Then he asked who had never shot a rifle or pistol ever... those men went to the middle of the squad bay. He said the rest of you... you who've been deer hunters or duck hunters or plinkers with your dad... Look at the center. Those are the group that will likely shoot EXPERT or SHARPSHOOTER. THE rest of us if we work hard may qualify as a lowly MARKSMAN. He was right.
It isn't enough to "know guns"... Once you've learned bad habits, you then need to 'unlearn' them and learn the right way to shoot. The same applies with gun safety.
Our top shooter was a competition shooter... the runner up was a never shot anything before. Things are not always as you'd assume.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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