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You aren't the spokesperson for most Americans.


"If I can't have an assault weapon... the cops can't have one either"...
Since the criminals that the cops have to face DO have assault weapons... the cops actually NEED them.
Henry will most likely NEVER NEED HIS... and if it is ever used, the odds are that it will be used to shoot
a neighbor, family member or stranger... not an intruder.
I wonder if Henry will let the cops borrow his if they need an assault weapon when THEY, NOT HENRY
answers the call for a 'bank robbery in progress'.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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only because Americans are so used to the teat

and GI Joe police officer is elevated above under the guise of 'the law'


Fourth Amendment - U.S. Constitution
Fourth Amendment - Search and Seizure

Amendment Text | Annotations

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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4th Amendment Annotations
Search and Seizure  
History and Scope of the Amendment  
History  
Scope of the Amendment  
The Interest Protected  
Arrests and Other Detentions  
Searches and Inspections in Noncriminal Cases  
Searches and Seizures Pursuant to Warrant  
Issuance by Neutral Magistrate  
Probable Cause  
Particularity  
First Amendment Bearing on Probable Cause and Particularity  
Property Subject to Seizure  
Execution of Warrants  
Valid Searches and Seizures Without Warrants  
Detention Short of Arrest: Stop-and-Frisk  
Search Incident to Arrest  
Vehicular Searches  
Vessel Searches  
Consent Searches  
Border Searches  
''Open Fields''  
''Plain View''  
Public Schools  
Government Offices  
Prisons and Regulation of Probation  
Drug Testing  
Electronic Surveillance and the Fourth Amendment  
The Olmstead Case  
Federal Communications Act  
Nontelephonic Electronic Surveillance  
The Berger and Katz Cases  
Warrantless ''National Security'' Electronic Surveillance  
Enforcing the Fourth Amendment: The Exclusionary Rule  
Alternatives to the Exclusionary Rule  
Development of the Exclusionary Rule  
The Foundations of the Exclusionary Rule  
Narrowing Application of the Exclusionary Rule  
Operation of the Rule: Standing  




http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment4/amendment.html


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Henry wants to disarm the police.  If Henry can't own an assault weapon... then the cops (who need
them) can't have them either.


Citizens have to face the criminals before the cops do, when you call the cops that means a crime is already in progress, does it make sense to disarm the people who need it first?


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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It's better to have an assault weapon and not need, it than to need one and not have it.
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I wonder if Henry will let the cops borrow his if they need an assault weapon when THEY, NOT HENRY
answers the call for a 'bank robbery in progress'.


Hell no I wouldn't let someone I don't know use my firearms. If that cop doesn't know how to use it or screws up and kills a kid by accident I could be held responsible for giving it to him. I shot with cops before and trust me not all of them are crack shots like you would expect


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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It's better to have an assault weapon and not need, it than to need one and not have it.


Believe me I know...
It's better to have an M60 machine gun and not need it than to need one and not have it.

It's better to have an Abrams tank and not need it than to need one and not have it.

It's better to have an 155mm howitzer and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Where does that end.
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Why does the military get to have M60 machine guns, Abrams tanks and 155mm howitzers and I
don't.  It should be just like the cops... they only get what I can have!!!

Is the real reason that I want to be equally armed with the US military and US police, is because
I expect to be in a battle with these forces????
Pathetic!




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Pro-Gun Rights Rally at the capitol on Feb 12th 8:00AM, Stewart Rhodes founder of the Oath Keepers will be there to talk along with others, oh I heard they're trying to get another person to come speak as well, this is not confirmed but they're trying to get a former presidential candidate to come speak....hint its not Mitt Romney



I heard the same Henry and it's not Newt either lol.  

Don't forget the other rally the end of the month !!!
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Hell no I wouldn't let someone I don't know use my firearms. If that cop doesn't know how to use it or screws up
and kills a kid by accident I could be held responsible for giving it to him.


And your fingerprints will be all over the weapon.

Soon Biometric technology will be miniaturized to where guns will only fire for the owner.

That will absolutely save lives.

Biometric gun safes are already available for rifles or handguns.

The problem with gun safes is they can be carried away unless anchored securely.

If the safe you’re looking to purchase isn’t built for mounting to the floor, don’t even waste your time.  
Safes that aren’t mounted can be easily tipped over and pried open, not to mention removed entirely
from the house.  If you don’t think that a thief would be able to pull off such a feat, you’re dead wrong.  
Determined burglars are wildly resourceful.  Crooks have been known to use items lying around the
house like golf balls and mop handles to convey thousand pound safes right out the door.

Criminals will often look at a safe as a challenge.
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They should have brought all the people in the hall in and had everyone stand face to face with the gun grabbers.

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New York

The Governor of New York is jogging with his dog along a nature trail.
A coyote jumps out and attacks the governor's dog, then bites the governor.

1. The governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie "Bambi"
and then realizes he should stop because the coyote is only doing what is natural.

2. He calls animal control. Animal control captures the coyote and
bills
the state $200 testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating it.

3. He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the state $200 testing it for diseases.

4. The governor goes to a hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for diseases from the coyote and on getting his bite wound bandaged.

5. The running trail gets shut down for 6 months while Fish & Game conducts a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is now free of dangerous animals.

6. The governor spends $50,000 in state funds implementing a "coyote awareness program" for residents of the area.

7. The state Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease throughout the world.

8. The governor's security agent is fired for not stopping the attack. The state spends $150,000 to hire and train a new agent with additional special training re: the nature of coyotes.

9. PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files a $5 million suit
gainst the state.


ARIZONA

The governor of Arizona is jogging with her dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks her dog.

1. The governor shoots the coyote with her state-issued pistol and
keeps jogging. The governor has spent $0.50 on a .45 ACP hollow point cartridge.

2. The buzzards eat the dead coyote.

... And that, my friends, is a good example of why New York is broke and Arizona is not. In God We Trust!
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LOL... a typical GunHugger response!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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