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Central America and the Iran-Contra Scandal
The 8 years Reagan was in office represented one of the most bloody eras in the history of the Western
hemisphere, as Washington funneled money, weapons and other supplies to right wing death squads.



And the death toll was staggering–more than 70,000 political killings in El Salvador, more than 100,000 i
n Guatemala, 30,000 killed in the contra war in Nicaragua.


In Washington, the forces carrying out the violence were called "freedom fighters." Reagan described the
Contras in Nicaragua as, "our brothers,  these freedom fighters and we owe them our help
. They are the
moral equal of our founding fathers."

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During Reagan’s years in power, the U.S.armed Iran and normalized relations with Iraq, selling weapons to both
sides of the conflict.

Chemical weapons were used and two of the most ancient societies on earth were devastated.
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Reagan was a serial tax raiser. As governor of California, Reagan “signed into law the largest tax increase in the
history of any state up till then.” Meanwhile, state spending nearly doubled. As president, Reagan “raised taxes in seven
of his eight years in office,” including four times in just two years.

Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion,
“roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether.”


Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. Reagan fought a proxy war with the Soviet Union by
training, arming, equipping, and funding Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan. Reagan funneled billions of dollars,
along with top-secret intelligence and sophisticated weaponry to these fighters through the Pakistani intelligence service.
The Talbian and Osama Bin Laden — a prominent mujahidin commander — emerged from these mujahidin groups
Reagan helped create, and U.S. policy towards Pakistan remains strained because of the intelligence services’ close
relations to these fighters. In fact, Reagan’s decision to continue the proxy war after the Soviets were willing to retreat
played a direct role in Bin Laden’s ascendancy.
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I guess it's like when you post a Ron Paul post... as if it mattered to me...
Reagan was a popular Republican presidents especially among Republicans, and Ron Paul IS a Republican.

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Unlike you I have my own opinions, I don't just say what a party wants me to say




"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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That abortion pile should be 10 stories high.

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According to the latest news from the Catholic Church... a fetus is NOT A PERSON!
It used to be a PERSON, but when the church faced a loss of a few million dollars in a lawsuit, they
changed their mind.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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That abortion pile should be 10 stories high.


Roman Catholic leaders and theologians called for the movement to become consistent in their
message and demand gun control legislation as well. They specifically directed their comments
toward Catholic Congressmen who are in the pockets of the NRA, and they named names: Speaker
of the House John Boehner and Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, both Republicans,
and Democratic Senators Joe Donnelly of Indiana and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota.

A letter signed by 60 Catholic theologians, priests, sisters and social justice advocates was
released by the liberal advocacy group, Faith in Public Life, just preceding the “March For Life”.
In part, it says:

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“Pro-life citizens and elected officials have a responsibility to show greater moral
leadership and political courage when it comes to confronting threats to the sanctity of life
posed by easy access to military-style assault weapons and high capacity magazines.
Members of Congress who take pride in their pro-life stance and appeal to family values
have no excuse for inaction, and neither do any of us who share a firm commitment to
these values …



Gun violence demeans human life and tears communities apart. There have been more
than 70 mass shootings since the January 8, 2011, massacre in Tucson, Arizona. More
than 900 people have been killed with guns since the Newtown tragedy.”

The letter further states that Catholic Congressmen “should not put powerful special
interests before the common good.” The director of Faith in Public Life, John Gehring,
added this:

“Catholic lawmakers who call themselves pro-life and are pretty cozy with the N.R.A.
shouldn’t be getting a free pass.”


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Poetic Justice!

Gun activists designated last Saturday “Gun Appreciation Day” in an attempt to highlight their
opposition to gun safety laws. The PR stunt proved to be more of an embarrassment, however,
when 5 people were shot at 3 different gun shows on Gun Appreciation Day.
On Friday afternoon, an Iowa gun dealer closed out the week by becoming the sixth person
shot at a gun show.
The man claims he was “showing off a .25 caliber pistol he thought was unloaded
when he slid the action of the gun.”
The gun was not unloaded, and a bullet went through his left palm.
After this incident, police found a second loaded weapon on the wounded gun dealer’s table.


GunHuggers!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box you should change your name to Slinky your all over the place and don't know which end is up.

You wonder how the board  got off topic (it was you) and then when you have nothing to counter the truth you start bringing in the church again lol.

Maybe if I put life in simple terms you will understand.

You plant a seed.

You water the seed.

It starts to sprout.

It forms roots for nourishment.

It is ALIVE.

You stop watering it.

It DIES.

Now

A woman gets pregnant.

Cells begin to divide.

It is ALIVE.

It gets its nourishment from the uternine wall.

An abortionist suctions and tears apart baby (or clump of cells as you call it)  and takes it out.

It dies.

In either case the seed should never have been planted if it was going to be deprived of it's nourishment and never given the chance to bloom.
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Misguided reaction Coupling mentally ill and gun control law perpetuates stigma
BY DANIEL T. WEAVER For The Sunday Gazette

    The late radical Catholic priest Philip Berrigan once said, “You know what they say about liberals: Scratch ’em and you’ll find a fascist. Or at the least, a weathervane.”
    Maureen Dowd, in a recent suck-up column, “Sheriff Andy of Albany,” clearly doesn’t think Gov. Cuomo is a weathervane, stating that Cuomo “shoved through tough gun legislation so blindingly fast that some state senators had scarcely read the bill, and the NRA conceded that it had no time to thwart it.”
    Public hearings, three-day waiting period, carefully thought-out legislation and democracy be damned, as long as the trains run on time — as long as we have dealt with Connecticut’s violent crime problems with legislation that won’t deal with the epidemic of handgun violence among New York state’s urban youth.
    And apparently, Gov. Cuomo and those who supported the legislation feel that it was OK to sacrifice some of the weakest (yet strongest), most vulnerable members of our society — the mentally ill — in order to pass gun control legislation.
    Ignorance of mental illness is the only other explanation for the cynical coupling of gun control with reinforced mental hygiene legislation. Yes, New York state, which only recently took the word “retardation” out of the name of its offi ce that deals with the mentally disabled, still refers to mental health as mental hygiene — which, along with oral hygiene, gives one the idea that if we just came up with the right kind of brain wash, maybe one with a minty flavor, we could fi x our mentally ill.
    The coupling of stronger gun control with stronger control of the mentally ill reveals the failure of the governor and the Legislature to use mental floss before writing and voting on the SAFE Act, which, on a smaller scale, is reminiscent in both its Orwellian name and potential consequences of George W’s Patriot Act.
FACTUAL INFORMATION
    The facts concerning the mentally ill are as follows: (Bing or Google them if you don’t believe me.)
    The mentally ill are 12 times more likely to be the victims of a violent crime than perpetrators of one.
    Only a small portion of violent crimes are committed by the mentally ill. Most mentally ill people are not violent.
    The vast majority of violent people are not mentally ill. For example, Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma bomber who killed 168 people, including 19 children (most younger than the ones in Newtown), was not mentally ill.
    According to a BBC profile, “After examining him in prison, psychiatrist Dr. John Smith concluded that prisoner 12076-064 was a decent person who had allowed rage to build up inside him to the point that he had lashed out in one terrible, violent act.”
    Mental health professionals have rightly noted that the new laws mandating that they report to the government patients who they deem might likely harm themselves or others will only result in patients either avoiding mental health treatment or not being forthcoming about any violent or suicidal thoughts they might have.
    I already have had more than one nonviolent, mentally ill person tell me they are going to avoid treatment now that the law has passed because they are afraid of what might happen to them. And while there are no criminal penalties attached to the failure of reporting, I am sure that will be enacted eventually, as it has with mandated reporters of child abuse.
    Maybe by mixing gun control with increased control of the mentally ill, Cuomo was trying to appease those legislators who support the NRA, which had called for a national registry of the mentally unhygienic. Whatever the reason, the SAFE Act and the conversation leading up to it and since its passage has only increased the stigma of mental illness.
ADDING TO STIGMA
    The focus of editorials and columns combining references to guns and the mentally ill have further stigmatized the mentally ill. Many of these columns and editorials have appeared in what are generally considered liberal newspapers. Newspapers that would not use the word “retard” if they were talking about the mentally disabled, seem comfortable using terms like “crazies,” “lunatics” and “unhinged” when talking about the mentally ill, or in some cases, using those terms to denigrate people who aren’t mentally ill.
    The mentally ill, like those civilians killed by President Obama’s drone strikes against terrorist suspects, are the collateral damage of the SAFE Act.
    I remember a speech given by a former governor. His name was Mario Cuomo. At the 1994 Democratic National Convention he gave the keynote address in which he talked about the struggle of people to rise above their circumstances. He said, “That struggle to live with dignity is the real story of the shining city.”
ONGOING STRUGGLE
    In America, few people have a harder struggle to live with dignity than the mentally ill. I ought to know. I have struggled with severe depression off and on for nine years.
    So what I want to say to Gov. Cuomo and to the NRA, who have equally denigrated and stigmatized the mentally ill in the past few weeks seemingly for political purposes, is this: “I am the mentally ill, and I vote.”



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    So what I want to say to Gov. Cuomo and to the NRA, who have equally denigrated and stigmatized the mentally ill in the past few weeks seemingly for political purposes, is this: “I am the mentally ill, and I vote.”


Better be careful, our heroic leaders may amend the SAFE legislation to not allow the "crazies" to vote anymore.  

This is great, the left wing gun grabbers are being called out for standing on the graves of children and shitting on people with mental illness in order to push their gun grabbing agenda.lol


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Poetic Justice!

Gun activists designated last Saturday “Gun Appreciation Day” in an attempt to highlight their
opposition to gun safety laws. The PR stunt proved to be more of an embarrassment, however,
when 5 people were shot at 3 different gun shows on Gun Appreciation Day.
On Friday afternoon, an Iowa gun dealer closed out the week by becoming the sixth person
shot at a gun show.
The man claims he was “showing off a .25 caliber pistol he thought was unloaded
when he slid the action of the gun.”
The gun was not unloaded, and a bullet went through his left palm.
After this incident, police found a second loaded weapon on the wounded gun dealer’s table.


GunHuggers!  



found out that the condom or the diaphragm had a hole in it and the chemical birth control was too dangerous
there by causing an 'unwanted' pregnancy and abortion.

you see that bullet can shoot men/women/children but an abortion only affects that non-child and woman....

can't abort a penis without a bullet


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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