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Libertarian4life
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is this the same group of folks that 'rented' the tip-toe inn?


Tip Toe Inn was Licensed until 1998.


TIP TOE INN INC      294 ALTAMONT AVENUE
SCHENECTADY, NY 12304      241      RL      09/30/1998      Expired

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was it smoking that killed a lot of the American Indians???? they didn't have pesticides....

any one ever hear of Monsantos?  YOU'RE EATING THE SH!T....don't worry about smoking tobacco or other wise......we're F'D




Monsanto is the biggest threat to humans that ever existed.

Society is too busy trying to get their own TV reality shows.

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Why is there a bill in the senate saying they are NON profit ?


http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S7242-2011

BILL NUMBER:S7242

TITLE OF BILL:
An act
to authorize Brothers of St. Paul Lodge 282, Inc.
to file an application for real
property tax exemption

PURPOSE:
To permit the City of Schenectady to accept a late application for an
exemption from real property taxes pursuant to section 420-a RPTL for
the 2009 through 2011 assessment rolls.

SUMMARY OF PROVISIONS:
This bill permits the Schenectady City Assessor to accept and evaluate
applications from the Brothers of St. Paul Lodge 282 for tax
exemptions for the 2009 through 2011 assessment rolls, even though
the deadline for these applications has passed.

EXISTING LAW:
Under current law, there is no authority for an assessor to accept and
evaluate late applications for a tax exemption based on
not-for-profit status.
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Why is there a bill in the senate saying they are NON profit ?


http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S7242-2011

BILL NUMBER:S7242

TITLE OF BILL:
An act
to authorize Brothers of St. Paul Lodge 282, Inc.
to file an application for real
property tax exemption

PURPOSE:
To permit the City of Schenectady to accept a late application for an
exemption from real property taxes pursuant to section 420-a RPTL for
the 2009 through 2011 assessment rolls.

SUMMARY OF PROVISIONS:
This bill permits the Schenectady City Assessor to accept and evaluate
applications from the Brothers of St. Paul Lodge 282 for tax
exemptions for the 2009 through 2011 assessment rolls, even though
the deadline for these applications has passed.

EXISTING LAW:
Under current law, there is no authority for an assessor to accept and
evaluate late applications for a tax exemption based on
not-for-profit status.


I believe the difference you are describing is that an application has been filed for non-profit status, not that they are currently designated as a non-profit.

I am all for the freedom to engage in association in private clubs.

With that being said, if I was a neighbor of this club and had issues with the safety of the neighborhood, I would check the status of the occupancy permit. There are generally 50 to 100 vehicles attending events at this location. The maximum allowable occupancy may well be only 50 or so persons for the entire building.

Keep in mind, these members play with guns and you don't want to expose yourself to possible risk. So take care to be discreet in your actions.

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The document that you posted also shows that back taxes may well be dismissed since the city has done the same for other organizations in the past, as stated in the decision.
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L4L I too have no probem with private clubs, just something not right with this whole story.
And they are allready a non profit, this legistion is that they didn't file the required paperwork to the city for their exemption for taxes.

JUSTIFICATION:
The Brothers of St. Paul Lodge 282 missed the application deadline and
did not receive its tax exempt status for the 2009 through 2011
assessment rolls. This nonprofit organization must now rectify this
situation through state legislation. The restoration of this property
tax exemption will enable this nonprofit to continue serving the
community.
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Saturday, September 29, 2012.

10:00pm.

CLUB 548

CALIENTE ENTERTAINMENT PRESENTS

WET & WILD (END OF THE SUMMER LUAU)
LATIN EDITION!!

DJ BOYBOY - ALBANY #1 LATIN DJ IS BACK IN THE ALBANY AREA

MIXING MERENGUE, SALSA, BACHATA, REGGEATON, FREESTYLE AND MORE ALL NIGHT LONG

HOSTED BY DJ NOOM-CEE

DOORS OPEN AT 10PM

DRINK SPECIALS ALL NIGHT!

SPECIAL PRIZES TO BE GIVEN OUT ALL NIGHT!!

21+ ONLY EVENT

CLUB 548
548 SCHENECTADY STREET
SCHENECTADY, NY

NOTICE OF FORMATION OF Caliente Entertainment LLC.
Articles of Organization filed with the Secretary of State of NY (SSNY) on 09/20/2012. Office location: Schenectady County. SSNY has been designated as agent upon whom process against it may be served. The Post Office address to which the SSNY shall mail a copy of any process against the LLC served upon him is Yara Tirado, 202 Front Street, Schenectady, NY 12305. Purpose of LLC: To engage in any lawful act or activity.
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Saturday, September 29, 2012.

10:00pm.

CLUB 548

CALIENTE ENTERTAINMENT PRESENTS

WET & WILD (END OF THE SUMMER LUAU)
LATIN EDITION!!

DJ BOYBOY - ALBANY #1 LATIN DJ IS BACK IN THE ALBANY AREA

MIXING MERENGUE, SALSA, BACHATA, REGGEATON, FREESTYLE AND MORE ALL NIGHT LONG

HOSTED BY DJ NOOM-CEE

DOORS OPEN AT 10PM

DRINK SPECIALS ALL NIGHT!

SPECIAL PRIZES TO BE GIVEN OUT ALL NIGHT!!

21+ ONLY EVENT

CLUB 548
548 SCHENECTADY STREET
SCHENECTADY, NY

NOTICE OF FORMATION OF Caliente Entertainment LLC.
Articles of Organization filed with the Secretary of State of NY (SSNY) on 09/20/2012. Office location: Schenectady County. SSNY has been designated as agent upon whom process against it may be served. The Post Office address to which the SSNY shall mail a copy of any process against the LLC served upon him is Yara Tirado, 202 Front Street, Schenectady, NY 12305. Purpose of LLC: To engage in any lawful act or activity.



That does not mention anything regarding being a private club member.

From the state liquor authority:

BROTHERS OF ST PAUL LODGE 282 INC      548 SCHENECTADY ST
CORNER OF STRONG & SCHENECTADY ST
SCHENECTADY , NY 12307      243      CL           License is Inactive
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How can a $60,000 property with a yearly tax bill of $1,164.64 possibly owe $35,000 in taxes?

Something else is missing from the story.




You're looking at the county website and getting that figure, note that says "city taxes."   There is also county taxes and school taxes which the county does not list.  

None of the dems in the city and county want to provide the TRUE FACTS, they absolutely will  NOT list the FULL tax bill amounts of ALL taxes AND "fees" (aka taxes, but not deductible) combined.  

You need to estimate about $43 per thousand of assessment








Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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The document that you posted also shows that back taxes may well be dismissed since the city has done the same for other organizations in the past, as stated in the decision.


Paul, you seem very concerned about others back tax status, can we assume you've paid the delinquent taxes on the Augustine Ave. property?
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GB once again getting it wrong - the minorities in the neighborhood are clamoring for it to be shut down
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is this the same group of folks that 'rented' the tip-toe inn?


Heard at the donut shop that it's presently trying to open as a pizza place.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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GB once again getting it wrong - the minorities in the neighborhood are clamoring for it to be shut down


It appears that someone has actually shut down the club.

Late Saturday night the place was a ghost town. Not a single person in sight. The streets are usually full of people and cars on a Saturday night.

The only thing around was a small memorial for the shooting victim. Some balloons tied to the telephone pole, about fifty empty liquor bottles and a piece of wallboard covered with signatures.






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CLUB 548
548 SCHENECTADY STREET
SCHENECTADY, NY

NOTICE OF FORMATION OF Caliente Entertainment LLC.
Articles of Organization filed with the Secretary of State of NY (SSNY) on 09/20/2012. Office location: Schenectady County. SSNY has been designated as agent upon whom process against it may be served. The Post Office address to which the SSNY shall mail a copy of any process against the LLC served upon him is Yara Tirado, 202 Front Street, Schenectady, NY 12305. Purpose of LLC: To engage in any lawful act or activity.


Wow, that's weird. About half hour ago, while I was out walking, some lady asked me for directions to that exact address. She
was at the wrong end of Front.  
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Why does the last name of Tirado sound familiar?




Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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