No, in Schenectady the schools are broken.

$150+++ million budget and no one has a clue how to educate the kids.

Let's keep closing the high schools until one massive one is created and 1/2 the kids fail.

Then they close all the middle schools until one massive one is created and what?? Failure.

Make Schenectady a union free district. See how much money will be saved in pensions and benefits then we can afford what schools need ---- qualified teachers and student resources.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The problem starts in the home not in the schools.  Parents use foul language and inappropriate behavior -- and the kids learn it.  

True.......and this is labeled the 'urban society' which is created and supported and encouraged by the liberal's lucrative welfare package. The liberal nut jobs know that once they have the 'undesirable' on the government teet...they will never getoff and will be generational. Hence = big government dependency!!! The liberal progressives dream come true!!!

Quoted from rachel72

No, in Schenectady the schools are broken.

$150+++ million budget and no one has a clue how to educate the kids.

Let's keep closing the high schools until one massive one is created and 1/2 the kids fail.

Then they close all the middle schools until one massive one is created and what?? Failure.

Make Schenectady a union free district. See how much money will be saved in pensions and benefits then we can afford what schools need ---- qualified teachers and student resources.

Try to get out of the habit of using the teachers or the teachers union as a scapegoat for the failed government schools.  It is the system that is a failure NOT teachers.  Teachers teach to a curriculum and cannot veer from that curriculum.  Teachers are just pedagogues following the strict government curriculum guidelines developed by bureaucrats.  

Don't expect the public schools system to change by participating in it.  You have to no longer participate.

Quoted from bumblethru

I was lead to believe that this kind of stuff started at a later age in the schenectady school district.....we were SHOCKED to hear about this happening among 5 years olds!!!

By the way, this young mom also told us that the other 'moms' (and I say that with reservations), are going to go to the school and complain about the homework these  year olds get. WHY????........Because these moms don't want to spend the time with the kids doing homework!! And that is exactly what they said and are going to tell the teacher!!! OMG!

By middle school they are not assigning any homework--the reason a mom friend of mine was told by her child's teacher, "half of them won't do it anyway so we just stopped assigning it." The school system teaches to the bottom. So the smart kids, the kids who are applying themselves still pass but they are not learning all that they could/should.

They did just start back up with tract learning (based on performance levels) so maybe some of that will begin to change...we'll have to see.

Quoted from CICERO

Try to get out of the habit of using the teachers or the teachers union as a scapegoat for the failed government schools.  It is the system that is a failure NOT teachers.  Teachers teach to a curriculum and cannot veer from that curriculum.  Teachers are just pedagogues following the strict government curriculum guidelines developed by bureaucrats.  

Don't expect the public schools system to change by participating in it.  You have to no longer participate.

A large part of why they can not veer from that curriculum is that they are not trained in anything other than education. Science teachers aren't scientists who just happen to go in to teaching---they're teachers who just happen to have gotten that open science position. Many of them are only knowledgable of the curriculum because all their classes are teaching theory, not on the actual subjects they are teaching.

I agree that the system itself is broken, but the teachers and their unions put the rope around their own wrists.

Quoted from bumblethru

True.......and this is labeled the 'urban society' which is created and supported and encouraged by the liberal's lucrative welfare package. ...l. Hence = big government dependency!!! The liberal progressives dream come true!!!

Exactly what DV supports, proof is his overwhelming for the dems in the city & county

Quoted from Parent

A large part of why they can not veer from that curriculum is that they are not trained in anything other than education. Science teachers aren't scientists who just happen to go in to teaching---they're teachers who just happen to have gotten that open science position. Many of them are only knowledgable of the curriculum because all their classes are teaching theory, not on the actual subjects they are teaching.

I agree that the system itself is broken, but the teachers and their unions put the rope around their own wrists.

Your statement is absolutely FALSE.   To become a provisionally certified and, eventually, certified teacher in new York State one must take MORE HOURS in the the subject (ex. science) than in so called "education courses"/pedagogical courses.   30 hours in subject specific courses as well as general core and pedagogical core courses.

Wow, 30 hours?  TIC

Quoted from CICERO

Wow, 30 hours?  TIC

30 credit hours .. not just 30 hours in the class room ---  a college student only takes 120 credit hours to receive a bachelor's degree.   And - New York standards are among the highest in the country for teacher certification.

Parent

My grandson is in the high school and he has homework every night, and certainly had it in middle school.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Your statement is absolutely FALSE.   To become a provisionally certified and, eventually, certified teacher in new York State one must take MORE HOURS in the the subject (ex. science) than in so called "education courses"/pedagogical courses.   30 hours in subject specific courses as well as general core and pedagogical core courses.

Another copy/paste comment from a non-taxpayer who cheerss for the rest of us to pay high taxes for the socialist system (government school, as well as government bakery, government theater, government hotel, government appliance store, etc).  

Notice how he REFUSES to answer, to explain HOW parents in Schenectady can afford to send their children to other than Schenectady government school.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Your statement is absolutely FALSE.   To become a provisionally certified and, eventually, certified teacher in new York State one must take MORE HOURS in the the subject (ex. science) than in so called "education courses"/pedagogical courses.   30 hours in subject specific courses as well as general core and pedagogical core courses.

A BS in any science (biology, chemistry) is typically 60+ hours so 30 hours is not nearly the same

Our friend has a (teachers's) masters degree in both English and Math...........This friend of ours is presently teaching American History.....YUP......TRUE!!!

And what about substitute teachers? A teacher goes out on maternity leave for MONTHS....the sub fills the spot. Ya wannaknow what 'educational' experience a sub needs to have????......NONE!!!

Quoted from Parent

A BS in any science (biology, chemistry) is typically 60+ hours so 30 hours is not nearly the same

Read carefully and you might understand  --- A Bachelor's Degree requires 120 credit hours  --- to be a certified teacher in New York, one needs 30+ hours IN THE SUBJECT AREA  ----  PLUS  hours in CORE and PEDAGOGICAL COURSES.   New York State has ONE OF THE HIGHEST REQUIREMENTS for becoming a certified teacher in the country.   THOSE ARE THE FACTS -- the bs that you spouted previously is NOT based on the facts.  Sorry if you don't like to hear the ACTUAL TRUTH -- actually .. no .. I won't apologize for having to tell you the ACTUAL TRUTH  because you have a habit of posting stuff that isn't true and bad-mouthing people based on falsehoods.

New York State and the Schenectady City School District have many GREAT teachers who do their best to educate our young people.   They don't deserve to be lied about and bad-mouthed by people who get their cheap thrills bashing others.

Your friend - MikeChristine - knows where he/she can stuff the lies that he/she pedals, too.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Read carefully and you might understand  --- A Bachelor's Degree requires 120 credit hours  --- to be a certified teacher in New York, one needs 30+ hours IN THE SUBJECT AREA  ----  PLUS  hours in CORE and PEDAGOGICAL COURSES.   New York State has ONE OF THE HIGHEST REQUIREMENTS for becoming a certified teacher in the country.   THOSE ARE THE FACTS -- the bs that you spouted previously is NOT based on the facts.  Sorry if you don't like to hear the ACTUAL TRUTH -- actually .. no .. I won't apologize for having to tell you the ACTUAL TRUTH  because you have a habit of posting stuff that isn't true and bad-mouthing people based on falsehoods.

I'm not saying teachers aren't great people, or that NYS his higher standards than other states.  But the fact is, teachers MUST teach to the curriculum the way their PEDAGOGICAL COURSES teach them.  The truth is, the government schools teach to a minimum standard.  If your child is bright and advanced entering public school because parents started teaching their child before they entered school, that child will be ignored by the teacher because they know the child already know that part of the curriculum. The teacher will spend time with the children that need the attention, and that child will not be challenged and advance until the other students that entered school at a lower level catch up to them.  In many cases, kindergarten is just a social event because some children already know much of the kindergarden curriculum.  The learning process is stunted right from when they enter public schools.  In some cases, it isn't worth preparing your child for school because the school system by design will drag them back to that minimum standard.  It's a horrible system.