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TRUE STORY...............47 year old female, severe back problem, on ssi/medicaid for 6 years. Receiving $725/mo. As of january 1st of 2013 she will no longer be receiving medicaid. Will instead receive medical benefits from MEDICARE. Out of her $725/mo check, they will deduct $135/mo for medicare...............AND..................medicare will NOT cover all of her benfits (both care and prescriptions) that she receives now.

She has no choice.....contacted an attorney......who told her this is all part of obamacare!!

Attorney said that this is just the beginning and that it is a total disaster and that folks don't have a clue what they are in for. He actually chuckled when he said that romney/ryan are being blasted for wanting to revamp medicare...........when in fact it is obama that has already destoryed it!!

TRUE STORY!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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This is only the beginning, the company I retired from has notified both active and retirees that as of next selection of a health-care plan which is in November that anyone with an HMO or PPO will be paying a lot more for their health plan. The only plan that will still be covered under the company paid plan will be MEP, kind of like a single payer plan.
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SHOW US THE $$ TRAIL.....

smoke and mirrors called redistribution.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Don't just let Obama take the credit....this railroad has been being built since the 80's....everyone concerned about the medicare
cost? got news for you...

1. most surgical procedures/tests/drugs require the patient to meet certain criteria for them to happen and for payment of said
procedure/tests/drugs.

2. hospitals are under pressure to make sure we don't return 'sick' otherwise they get 'fined'...ie: 90 year old has valve replacement
(kind of like putting new muffler on rusty exhaust system)..almost guaranteed the elder either 1.stays in ER for quick fix lasix dose
2. hospital doesn't even allow the surgery to be done as to avoid the readmit that is more likely than not.

don't worry about cost worry about what barn the herd you into....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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That 90 yr old under the new guide lines will never see the valve replacement in the first place as it will not be cost effective as determined by the group of 15 who will be charged with trimming cost for health-care IMHO.
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don't anyone think for a minute that this wasn't the plan for decades. (remember the clintons?) They knew that the boomers were going to drain the system.....too many of them!!! They sold it to the sheople as helping those who couldn't afford healthcare....BULLSH!T!!! That was the 'emotional' sales pitch!! The truth of the matter is, and as sad as it is, they are pulling monies, benfits and medical care 'away' from the boomers via medicare!!!

It doesn't take a rocket scientist here folks. You can all rest assured that no matter who gets elected.....nothing regarding obamacare will change. They can't afford the boomers and never made any provisions for them.....SIXTY YEARS AGO!!! Pathetic!

But what the hell......they think nothing of killing unproductive unborn children.....what made anyone think the unproductive senior that have no human or economic value either would get different treatment....just another parasite!!!  


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Quoted from Shadow
That 90 yr old under the new guide lines will never see the valve replacement in the first place as it will not be cost effective as determined by the group of 15 who will be charged with trimming cost for health-care IMHO.


Oh NOOOOOOO!  Sarah Palin's Death Panels!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Not a death panel to keep the cost of health-care down by not spending money on operations that are too risky or will not extend life or quality of life for a long enough time. Lets face it when you get to be 90 yrs old how much longer can you be expected to live?
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Quoted from Box A Rox


Oh NOOOOOOO!  Sarah Palin's Death Panels!  


silly....they are NOT death panels.....they are hospice consults....that's the official term....I use it everyday.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Not a death panel to keep the cost of health-care down by not spending money on operations that are too risky or will not extend life or quality of life for a long enough time. Lets face it when you get to be 90 yrs old how much longer can you be expected to live?


how ever long prometheus says


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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