Consolidation into a single city-county is the best way to go. It will save the taxpayers money. Be much more cost effective. And the government will still be close enough to the people.
And it really doesn't matter if you dislike the fact that a new private business has moved into the city. It is irrational to be so upset about a new private business coming into the city -- and frankly doesn't deserve any additional comment from me.
You STILL have not provided the numbers to show HOW we will save money if we are consolidated. People in the towns will have to pay much increased for all the OT for cops in the city for example. And our low cost trash costs will increase substantially. And our water costs, at least in Rotterdam, are SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER than in Schenectady (but of course you do not know these truths because you are not a taxpayer and don't even know what a tax bill looks like)
I, myself, am not opposed to private business coming in AS LONG AS IT PAYS TAXES!!!!!!!!! The so-called "private" businesses that have moved IN are NOT paying taxes!!!!!!!!!
And the "private" businesses coming in are NOT generating sales tax, or having' you read what your buddy McC said.
So, let's see where YOU can:
1. Prove that the private businesses are paying their own way
2. The numbers that will show HOW consolidation with lower taxes for us in the towns
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Consolidation into a single city-county is the best way to go. It will save the taxpayers money. Be much more cost effective. And the government will still be close enough to the people.
And it really doesn't matter if you dislike the fact that a new private business has moved into the city. It is irrational to be so upset about a new private business coming into the city -- and frankly doesn't deserve any additional comment from me.
It's not that folks 'dislike' private business moving into the city..........they just don't care! It does absolutely nothing for their quality of life economically or safety. In the last decade, many new tax exempt businesses have emerged and every year the taxes and fees have increased for residents....along with crime. The school system has NOT improved. The residents are suffering and are continuing with no relief in sight. And no consolidation is going to remedy their problems. It will take decades, if ever, to get out of this mess created by these dimwits.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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The exact opposite is happening. The Towns are starting to separate from the city more and more. Imagine what would happen to the city finances if they stopped using our services. How could someone save money by creating a whole new separate sewer system?
Would it be better if Scotia Glenville built a bigger system and then we pumped it to them?
Should Schenectady build a bigger more efficient system and then address this issue?
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo......abolish government garbage pickup and PRIVATIZE IT!!! That in itself would be a huge savings for the taxpayers. Salaries, benefits, pensions, trucks, truck insurance/repairs/fuel, liabilities....blah blah blah!!!!
the city cant privatize it.....too many gypsies don't pay or even pay attention to the pick up days....the city has to continually pick up after it's serfs....
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That is the key question: Present all the numbers which show the consolidation would save money. Someone throws out an enticing figure but neglects to support it with the calculations that generated the enticing figure. 70-75% of budgets are personnel and benefits - no one has explained how merging all the agencies will allow teh Departmenst to reduce staff.
Political fiefdoms - I think that is the town and village representatives doing waht they think is best for the residents in tehir jurisdiction - (aka democracy)
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Still need to see how it would save money. I have heard that it will, but have yet to see the calculations supporting the claim.
true....the only thing I could think of would be the buildings MAYBE, and that would only be at first, after that johnny will grow out of his britches and need bigger/more space.......
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There are numerous ways that consolidation would save money --- just eliminating redundant positions alone would save money. Each village, each town, the city and the county (9 entitities) have a clerk, an executive, a legislative body, 1 tax collector, 1 tax assessor etc. ---- one city-county would have 1 clerk, 1 executive, 1 legislative body, 1 tax collector, 1 assessor.
BTW - I would propose that if we went to a city-county form of government that the legislative body should be elected from wards or districts ... this would prevent one part of the county more power or voice in government than other parts of the county.
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There are numerous ways that consolidation would save money --- just eliminating redundant positions alone would save money. Each village, each town, the city and the county (9 entitities) have a clerk, an executive, a legislative body, 1 tax collector, 1 tax assessor etc. ---- one city-county would have 1 clerk, 1 executive, 1 legislative body, 1 tax collector, 1 assessor.
BTW - I would propose that if we went to a city-county form of government that the legislative body should be elected from wards or districts ... this would prevent one part of the county more power or voice in government than other parts of the county.
Typical brainwashed person. The current one assessor in each of the municipalities, NOW, cannot keep the assessment rolls up to date, in face ONE assessor cannot keep the STAR exemptions accurate, and this whacko non-taxpayer thinks that having one asessor for ALL the municipalities will get the whole county reassesssed. One clerk in the city now cannot handle the job of getting death certificates immeidately, but DV's one clerk will be able to do the job of all the municipalities.
But wait until the cheerleader needs a cop on his street and there none because all the cops from the current towns are called to the city because of some murder in froint of Bombers!!!!!!!!!
Some people really know NOTHING
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Actually, it's reflective of a person who most likely never had a job, merely thinking that one person can do the job of more than 5
But then, it will probably end up like Albany where, I believe it's at the county level, where there was this talk about adding many more legislators, maybe that even happened, and that's without even consolidation.
He STILL cannot provide any proof that the county taxes are lower than 50 years ago. And because he can't provide any proof, he pretends that I'm on "ignore."
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Its all very simple. North of the Mohawk River should go to Saratoga County. Duanesburg and Princetown should go to Schoharie County. Woodlawn and the Northside as well as Niskayuna should becomevillages inthe Town of Colonie in Albany County. Bellevue and the Town of Rotterdam should become part of Altamont And the rest of the city should apply to become the third world country that it is.
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Its all very simple. North of the Mohawk River should go to Saratoga County. Duanesburg and Princetown should go to Schoharie County. Woodlawn and the Northside as well as Niskayuna should becomevillages inthe Town of Colonie in Albany County. Bellevue and the Town of Rotterdam should become part of Altamont And the rest of the city should apply to become the third world country that it is.
Its all very simple. North of the Mohawk River should go to Saratoga County. Duanesburg and Princetown should go to Schoharie County. Woodlawn and the Northside as well as Niskayuna should becomevillages inthe Town of Colonie in Albany County. Bellevue and the Town of Rotterdam should become part of Altamont And the rest of the city should apply to become the third world country that it is.
Altamont is a village totally surrounded by the Town of Guilderland.
And referring to the city as a third world country shows a lack of knowledge about conditions in the third world. No part of the city is even close to being in the third world.
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There are numerous ways that consolidation would save money --- just eliminating redundant positions alone would save money. Each village, each town, the city and the county (9 entitities) have a clerk, an executive, a legislative body, 1 tax collector, 1 tax assessor etc. ---- one city-county would have 1 clerk, 1 executive, 1 legislative body, 1 tax collector, 1 assessor.
BTW - I would propose that if we went to a city-county form of government that the legislative body should be elected from wards or districts ... this would prevent one part of the county more power or voice in government than other parts of the county.
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Friar Tuck
Here's another Merry Man you shouldn't underestimate. Friar Tuck is very overweight and seems to love food and ale as much as his God. He can be jolly, foolish, lecherous, an alcoholic, a devout holy man and sometimes wise. He is also a dangerous opponent.
Just ask Robin Hood. The outlaw leader was foolish enough to pick a fight with him.
Tuck lived by a small ford. Robin wanted to cross the river. So, he climbed on Tuck's back and ordered the friar to carry him across the water. Tuck did so. But then he forced Robin to carry him back across the water. Now, Robin climbed onto the friar's back again. But halfway across, Tuck dumped bold Robin into the water.
Then, they had an archery contest and fought with swords. Tuck won.
Robin asked a boon. He blew three blasts of his horn and fifty Merry Men appeared. Tuck asked a favour in return and blew a whistle. Fifty dogs appeared to fight the Merry Men. (In the play version, Tuck summons some men of his own. It's hard to get fifty fighting dogs on the stage.)
But Robin Hood called the fight off and asked the friar to join his band. Tuck accepted.
It's said Tuck comes from Fountains Abbey in Yorkshire or Fountaindale in Nottinghamshire. Click here to see a picture of the river Skell and Fountains Abbey in Yorkshire, supposed site of Tuck and Robin's first meeting. Occasionally his full name is given as Michael Tuck. Sometimes Tuck is the Sheriff of Nottingham's chaplain. In some stories, his connection with Robin is unknown by the bad guys and, like Marian, he can give secret help to the outlaws.
In the novel Ivanhoe, Tuck is known as the Clerk of Companhurst and lives at a hermitage with his dogs, his wine and a storehouse of freshly killed venison. When he goes into battle with Robin of Locksley, Tuck discards the hermit's grey robes and dons a Lincoln green uniform. Tuck declares "When I am cased in my green cassock, I will drink, swear, and woo a lass with any blythe forester in the West Riding." He promises to confess his sins to his grey-clad priestly self.
Friar Tuck isn't in many ballads, but he's still an important part of the outlaw band.
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