They should be available on-line with passwords etc...............OR.............let the public library gain access.

However....they just created a black market for these documents. Just get ONE....and have more printed out by anyone who has a printer!!!
Or hell............just like driver's licenses, passports etc.....they will make fake copies. It's already being discussed 'on the street'.

Good thinkin' on the part of the liberal brain dead!!

Total incompetence.  Do you get your brain removed after being elected anywhere.  Its not just Schenectady even though we are wrose than most.  Banning large sodas.....

CHURCHES used to have authority to keep these 'official' records for the sheople.....and they were considered VALID....

here we are now...new ICON in town.....don't forget to pray to the god of the fiat system....I'm sorry Box I didn't mean to
offend your god....

REAL ID coming fast and furious

PROGRESSIVE IS SUBJECTIVE

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SCHENECTADY
City fee hikes pass hurdle
Prices for copies, events could rise
BY KATHLEEN MOORE Gazette Reporter

    The city simply has too little money to get by without increasing fees, City Council members said Monday.
    In committee, they informally agreed to go ahead with an unpopular price increase for death certificates, birth certifi cates and copies of marriage licenses.
    They also agreed to raise the fee for weddings and other events held in the Rose Garden, but not to pass that revenue along to the volunteers who maintain the garden.
    The volunteers asked the council to raise the fee from $10 to $25 an hour for residents, and from $50 to $100 for nonresidents. But the volunteers said they wanted the city to give them every cent raised through the fee, so that they could pay for rose bushes, irrigation maintenance and other items needed to keep the garden in good shape.
At first, some council members had said they liked that idea. But now they’ve nixed it. “We would be giving up $10 by raising it to $25,” Councilman Carl Erikson said. And that $10 fee adds up to so much money that the city can’t do without it, Finance Commissioner Ismat Alam said. “We get pretty nice revenue from it. We should keep that revenue for the city,” she said. “Part of the increase can go to them.” Councilwoman Marion Porterfield, who is running for election, was the only member to speak in favor of giving the fee to the volunteers.
    “They’ve been doing this out of their own pockets,” she said.
    Other council members argued that it would be irresponsible to simply hand over the fee without knowing how the volunteers would spend it.
    “I think it’s a little bit dangerous. We have to know where it’s going,” Councilman Carl Erikson said.
    Corporation Counsel John Polster added that a fee-sharing agreement could go wrong if the volunteer organization fell apart someday. The organization formed in 1995 after the city stopped maintaining the garden because of the cost of the work.
    “What if they go out of business?” Polster said.
Councilwoman Margaret King said the volunteers could submit requests for specific projects to be funded by a portion of the fee.
Council President Denise Brucker agreed with that idea.
“What we decide to do with it is up to us,” she said.
Ultimately, the council agreed to raise the fees and not guarantee any of the money to the volunteers, but held out the possibility of giving some funds to the volunteers upon request.
    The city’s tight fi nances were also to blame for the new fee on birth, death and marriage certifi - cates.
    Those who are willing to wait up to two weeks can get a certifi cate for $10. Those who want it right away must pay $20 for priority service, under the proposal. Currently, residents can get a certifi cate immediately for $10.
    Some funeral home directors have objected to the priority fee, saying it’s offensive to charge grieving families more for copies of a death certificate. Some families need several certificates so they can apply for life insurance and other benefits, and in some cases they may need those benefits right away to handle financial problems caused by a breadwinner’s death.
    City Clerk Chuck Thorne said the price increase covers the city’s costs to maintain its machines and pay its staff.
    “I was told, the last three months, I have to cut costs. I can’t cut costs. Technology has taken all the fat out of the cost of doing business. Several positions have been cut and if you keep cutting people you can’t provide the services we provide,” he said.
    “If you can’t cut costs anymore, the only option as I see it is to increase revenues.”
    At first, some council members were won over by complaints that it was unfair to charge the extra fee on every copy, since the copies are all made by machine. One funeral director said it was wrong to charge more for a clerk to press a 9 than to press a 1 on the copy machine.
    “Maybe the fee applies to the fi rst copy and not multiple copies, as a compromise?” Erikson asked. “If they order one and say, ‘Send me five more when you get them done,’ do we put them on a shelf?”
    But Thorne said workers have to do more than simply operate a copier. They must emboss and stamp each copy, and he argued that it’s better time management to emboss dozens of certifi cates at once, rather than doing them a few at a time, whenever a customer comes in.
Councilwoman Leesa Perazzo was convinced. “We’re giving people an option to get it for the same price,” she said. Brucker added, “I understand everyone’s concerns, but it’s not like we’re raising it to $50.” The council voted informally to make the price increase. Both fees will be on next Monday’s agenda for a final vote by the full council.

http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01102&AppName=1

scum, taking advantage of widows

Yeah, the copies cost SOOOO MUCH, UPCHUCK- you pissant little duche

Quoted from bumblethru

They should be available on-line with passwords etc...............OR.............let the public library gain access.

However....they just created a black market for these documents. Just get ONE....and have more printed out by anyone who has a printer!!!

Or hell............just like driver's licenses, passports etc.....they will make fake copies. It's already being discussed 'on the street'.

Good thinkin' on the part of the liberal brain dead!!

Bumble, would you expect any less from a bunch of wanna-be mobsters who have given away the millions of dollars of Downtown properties only to certain politically connected individuals? It's pure corruption with a smiley face of the Metroplex stamped all over it.

Now the City can't find money to compensate for the millions off the tax base Downtown, so they add higher taxes, more FEES and more PRIORITY CHARGES to skirt around NY laws. They're robbing the middle class to pay for the poor.

At least the mafia was a bit more discreet.  

Yup.  Again and again they make Schenectady look bad.  I can see an extra $10 to get the whole batch to get moved to the front but to charge a higher amount for each one is robbery.   I cant wait for the State to take over.  They probably wont do anything either.  

When I made the funeral arrangements for a relative, the funeral director asked me how many death
certificates I wanted.  He advised 5 plus one for each sibling, as the price then was for one cert... and
the rest were free up to 15.

I found that I needed one more death certificate to submit to a bank to close an account.  I made a copy
on my printer on good quality paper...   ---then where the "official seal" was supposed to be embossed on
the paper, I used an old bus token that had raised letters to make it look official.
I put the token on a scrap 2x4, then the copy, then another scrap 2x4 and hit the board with a hammer.
The raised letters from the bus token imprinted nicely on the copy.  

4 siblings and now you have $500.0 for death certificcates. how compassionate these bureaucrats are

Quoted from Box A Rox

When I made the funeral arrangements for a relative, the funeral director asked me how many death
certificates I wanted.  He advised 5 plus one for each sibling, as the price then was for one cert... and
the rest were free up to 15.

I found that I needed one more death certificate to submit to a bank to close an account.  I made a copy
on my printer on good quality paper...   ---then where the "official seal" was supposed to be embossed on
the paper, I used an old bus token that had raised letters to make it look official.
I put the token on a scrap 2x4, then the copy, then another scrap 2x4 and hit the board with a hammer.
The raised letters from the bus token imprinted nicely on the copy.  

I agree that this is ridiculous, on a side note forging government documents probably isn't something to brag about on the internet. Just sayin...

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I agree that this is ridiculous, on a side note forging government documents probably isn't something to brag about on the internet. Just sayin...

silly...that's what the internet is for.....you see the plebs ARE smarter than the punitive system that we accept
as civilized

SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS COMRADE

http://blog.timesunion.com/opinion/desperate-times-in-schnectady/22486/

Our opinion: The mayor wants to charge more for obtaining vital records in a timely manner. But what  message does that send to people expecting reasonable public services?

Ouch. Schenectady, like many aging upstate cities, is confronting difficult fiscal straits. But doubling the cost of obtaining birth certificates and death certificates, not to mention dancing around state law to do so, is a bad idea. It’s small-minded and unfair.

Mayor Gary McCarthy ought to think again. The additional $50,000 he can raise that way would come at quite a cost of its own in the form of more cynicism about government. People who are already paying high property taxes will be facing something resembling extortion when they need vital records that are, fundamentally, theirs to begin with.

State law puts a $10 limit on the cost of obtaining either a birth certificate or a death certificate, an amount that’s already far above the usual 25-cent-per-page cost for reproduced public documents. So here comes Mr. McCarthy, suggesting that could go up to $20 if it’s considered a so-called “priority fee.”

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I agree that this is ridiculous, on a side note forging government documents probably isn't something to brag about on the internet. Just sayin...

The bank requested a "copy" of the death certificate... that's what they got!

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That leaves Mr. McCarthy trying to make an end-run around the state Legislature with his “priority fee” scam.
...

As for trying to outwit state law, Mr. McCarthy should keep in mind that if city finances get more dire, they might yet attract the alarm of state officials — in the form of an imposed financial control board.

Control board can't come soon enough!