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Box A Rox
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Newsweek lists the Top 10 Best US Presidents:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/g.....otos.html#introSlide


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They also asked the public to name their top 10 presidents...with Jimmy Carter and GHW Bush in the public's list, I wonder if they thought they were being asked what presidents can you remember or what presidents do you like personally? because their list doesn't make sense otherwise...

As far as the Historians, the only two I think don't belong in the top ten are LBJ and Eisenhower. Eisenhower didn't really do much other than watch the autopilot..and between LBJ's great society programs and escalating Vietnam pretty much should remove him from the list as well.


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Of what country?
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May I refer you to a book just out by Dennis Gaffney about the Presidents.  It is quite good.

Incidentally Carter has had the best POST presidency of everyone.  He has been quite amazing.
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Quoted from Yossi
May I refer you to a book just out by Dennis Gaffney about the Presidents.  It is quite good.
Incidentally Carter has had the best POST presidency of everyone.  He has been quite amazing.


I agree Yossi. Carter may not have had a stellar presidency, but he's set a standard for what it means
to be an effective ex US President.  He's helped eliminate disease through his Carter Foundation and
he's certified election results in growing democracies validating the results of those elections to prevent
election fraud.

Bill Clinton since leaving office, has been active politically as a Democrat spokesman for his party.
  Bill Clinton and George HW Bush became friends working together on  tsunami relief in Asia.



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Yes actually W is more acceptable now.  He was the worst ever President.
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I would have to disagree with your assessment of George W Bush.  While he may not have been among the best, he should at least appear in the "middle of the pack" of any presidential rankings.

Mr. Carter and Mr. Obama should rank at the bottom for their abysmal handling of the nation's economy, their inability to work with Congress (even when both houses were in their own party's hands - 4 years for Carter and 2 years for Obama) --- and most importantly for their horrendous handling of foreign policy.  In both cases, it is obvious that they SOLD OUT our nation and our nation's allies while strengthening the hand of our nation and our nation's allies enemies.  

President Madison should be near the bottom along with Carter, Obama and some of the 19th century presidents.

I would say that Ronald Reagan (except for the botched Social Security deal with Tip O'Neil) and both Roosevelts should rank in the top 10.  

Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson should at least be 10th or close to that top rank.


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I would have to disagree with your assessment of George W Bush.  While he may not have been among the best, he should at least appear in the "middle of the pack" of any presidential rankings.

Mr. Carter and Mr. Obama should rank at the bottom for their abysmal handling of the nation's economy, their inability to work with Congress (even when both houses were in their own party's hands - 4 years for Carter and 2 years for Obama) --- and most importantly for their horrendous handling of foreign policy.  In both cases, it is obvious that they SOLD OUT our nation and our nation's allies while strengthening the hand of our nation and our nation's allies enemies.


Re-election Could Put Obama in Top 4 All-Time
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The 2012 stakes are high for President Obama, whose re-election could mean more
than four more years in the White Houseā€”it could transform his status in the minds of historians
from average to one of greatest presidents of all time.


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http://www.usnews.com/news/blo.....ma-in-top-4-all-time


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Re-election Could Put Obama in Top 4 All-Time


US News & World Report
http://www.usnews.com/news/blo.....ma-in-top-4-all-time


The US News & World Report is a rag -- just like TIME and Newsweek have become.  Not credible sources -- and not sources that I use to study and analyze current issues or political history.



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Re-election Could Put Obama in Top 4 All-Time


US News & World Report
http://www.usnews.com/news/blo.....ma-in-top-4-all-time


Top 4 all time contributors to the nations debt? Yup, 4 more years will do it.


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C-Span finds G W Bush among the 10 WORST US PRESIDENTS!

The Bottom 10:
33 Rutherford B. Hayes               
34 Herbert Hoover               
35 John Tyler               
36 George W. Bush               
37 Millard Fillmore               
38 Warren G. Harding               
39 William Henry Harrison               
40 Franklin D. Pierce               
41 Andrew Johnson               
42 James Buchanan     

C-SPAN
http://legacy.c-span.org/PresidentialSurvey/Overall-Ranking.aspx


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Where's Obama and Carter? Even Carter didn't allow US Ambassadors to be murdered. It's Islamic terrorism not a video.
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Quoted from benny salami
Where's Obama and Carter? Even Carter didn't allow US Ambassadors to be murdered. It's Islamic terrorism not a video.


actually, yeah he did


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Actually Carter didn't do that bad.  He finished 25th, behind Gerald Ford, and ahead of Richard Nixon.
Best Modern Presidents:
3 Franklin D. Roosevelt          
4 Theodore Roosevelt               
5 Harry S. Truman     
6 John F. Kennedy     
8 Dwight D. Eisenhower               
10 Ronald Reagan               
11Lyndon B. Johnson               
15 Bill Clinton               
18 George H. W. Bush               
22 Gerald R. Ford               
25 Jimmy Carter               
27 Richard M. Nixon     


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