Rusty - watch the news or read a history book if you do not understand what war is

Quoted from visitor

The war on drugs is not a war.  

You're only saying that because you're not winning.  Ask the two gangs pushing their trade up here, it's a war, between them, one will win - one will lose.  A gun will be brought to the party, knifes will be drawn.  It most CERTAINLY IS a "war zone" - it's only the SPD that refuse to see it for what it is.

Quoted from visitor

Rusty - watch the news or read a history book if you do not understand what war is

Oh trust me you young fool - I KNOW what war is.  The only ones that can't see it happeing right here in Schenectady are the ones with the rose colored glasses.  Take them off, you'll see what's happening on the streets here every day.

Ok, so the drug trade war is between two rival gangs ?  Which gangs are they?

When was the last time there was a gang involved shooting re: thsi drug war?

You seem to be very knowledgable - so perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us.

Quoted from visitor

Lib you are delusional

The war on drugs is not a war.  Police departments address the byproducts or externalities of the illicit drug trade.  More simply put, police typically target
drug markets which create violence or otherwise diminish the quality of life in neighborhoods.

So to quote you, "the war is not a war." That makes you the self deluded one.

Quoted from visitor

To assert civilan aggression is caused by police aggression is simply wildly inaccurate.  Most violence in the City of Schenectady falls into one of two categories - domestic violence - has nothing to do with the police.  Or do yo alter your illogical tehory to say - police are aggressive so males beat their significant others.

Physics says that you are full of crap.

More aggression and violence into the system equals more aggression and violence out.

A badge can't change the laws of physics.

All the other domestic crimes are the result of the infighting between the targeted undesirables.

You teach them every day by your actions, that violent aggression is a problem solving tool.

You  build a network of hatred, violence and distrust every day.

One victim at a time.

Quoted from visitor

The other category is a small subpopulation of people in certain SES categories solve things with violence.  Your notion that these things occur because of the police is ridiculous.

It occurs because of physics.

Proof: Rockefeller drug laws punishing people with lifetime imprisonment gave birth to the use of guns by all drug dealers.

These actions resulted in every day of their lives becoming a fight to the death.

History repeating itself.

Failure is imminent for the enforcers.

There is no possible way to lower aggressive violent actions in a closed system, by introducing more aggressive violent enforcement.

Quoted from visitor

Should we take a good hard look at current drug policy - absolutely.  Has police brutality been a  problem - yes, but, to use those two factors to argue
that inner city violence is learned behavior from the police, well - I certainly hope you are not in a position to pass that crackpot theory onto students

Those 2 factors are insignificant.

You teach by your example.

Gangsters mimic you and you gang's actions.

The more that you threaten their lives, the more dangerous each neighborhood becomes.

Your targeted enforcement against Hamilton Hill has done nothing except grow the war zone to Mt Pleasant.

The gangs and gangster mentality is prevalent among the citizenry as well as the enforcement communities.

Conclusion: War Zone - Growing Every Day

Quoted from visitor

Ok, so the drug trade war is between two rival gangs ?  Which gangs are they?

When was the last time there was a gang involved shooting re: thsi drug war?

You seem to be very knowledgable - so perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us.

Obviously, you're not a representative of the SPD - even THEY'RE not THAT stupid.

Quoted from visitor

Ok, so the drug trade war is between two rival gangs ?  Which gangs are they?

When was the last time there was a gang involved shooting re: thsi drug war?

You seem to be very knowledgable - so perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us.

You are the major gang, genius.

The rest are those who arm themselves to protect their lives from being taken by you.

And exactly like you, endangering the rest of society is collateral damage.

War Zone

Instead of 'War Zone' let's just call it what it really is.

A 'Free Fire Zone'

Quoted from visitor

Ok, so the drug trade war is between two rival gangs ?  Which gangs are they?

The police are the biggest gang. The rest mimic you.

Quoted from visitor

When was the last time there was a gang involved shooting re: thsi drug war?

Every day since, um, the beginning of the war.

Quoted from visitor

You seem to be very knowledgable - so perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us.

I will.

This battle has been ongoing for a century.

Law enforcement is a collective, not individuals.

You cannot justify the actions of a single member of the collective.

I'm sure there was a few decent Nazis.

The problem is that you fail to recognize the law enforcement collective as the rest of society does.

The collateral damage.

The uncountable deaths.

The loss of Liberty and Rights.

The invasion of private lives.

The violence.

The racism.

The militarization of police.

Same as it ever was.




















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You Can Never Reduce Death, Violence, Crime, Hatred Or Terrorism By Adding More Death, Violence And Terrorism To The War

a few murders aren't a big deal just as much as a few abortions aren't a big deal....

Quoted from Libertarian4life

You are the major gang, genius.

The rest are those who arm themselves to protect their lives from being taken by you.

That is absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah the police are really the major problem in this country.

For every single one of your pictures of police showing off their military weapons you can find probably 10,000 instances of random acts of murder on the part of criminals.

Do some police overreact and the innocent are killed and injured?  Yes.  Are some police incompetent and corrupt? Yes.  In Schenectady?  Yes, everywhere.

But to say the police are the real problem in our society is absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah - they're the ones causing the random acts of violence near downtown Chicago in broad daylight.

Quoted from JackBauer

That is absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah the police are really the major problem in this country.

For every single one of your pictures of police showing off their military weapons you can find probably 10,000 instances of random acts of murder on the part of criminals.

Do some police overreact and the innocent are killed and injured?  Yes.  Are some police incompetent and corrupt? Yes.  In Schenectady?  Yes, everywhere.

But to say the police are the real problem in our society is absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah - they're the ones causing the random acts of violence near downtown Chicago in broad daylight.

Action equals reaction, always.

Badges don't stop the laws of physics.

Evil input equals evil output.

You are attempting to fight fire with fire.

The entire country and the world has declared international war on drugs, terror, free speech, free travel, etc.

The world has become a police state.

Thanks to the police, not the criminals.

The criminals upgraded when they were threatened with life imprisonment.

Cause= police actions

Effect=escalating death and violence.

You are having a f'ing arms race with the criminals.

Collateral bystanders and peace loving nonparticipants be damned.

War Zone!

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Cause= police actions

Effect=escalating death and violence.

You are having a f'ing arms race with the criminals.

Collateral bystanders and peace loving nonparticipants be damned.

War Zone!

So what is the alternative solution?

If you're critical of the current criminal justice system, I'm sure you do have one in mind that is better.  (Seriously)  What is that?

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Action equals reaction, always.

Badges don't stop the laws of physics.

Evil input equals evil output.

You are attempting to fight fire with fire.

The entire country and the world has declared international war on drugs, terror, free speech, free travel, etc.

The world has become a police state.

Thanks to the police, not the criminals.

The criminals upgraded when they were threatened with life imprisonment.

Cause= police actions

Effect=escalating death and violence.

You are having a f'ing arms race with the criminals.

Collateral bystanders and peace loving nonparticipants be damned.

War Zone!

I can't say as we blame the 'police' themselves personally, because anyone who knows me knows that I could
NEVER be a police officer, but they exist under laws/regulations made over a couple of generations....

perception of 'control' leads to my postscript listed below.....shame shame shame....

now it is time for the 'unwinding'....