Quoted from 55tbird

Based on what I see, Obama's plan increases taxes on eight of nine groups in the chart , and Romney decreases  taxes on eight of the nine groups, and the group he does increase taxes on, it's an average of $2.75 a week....and the vast majority of this group pay NO net federal income taxes anyway, so what is changed? the size of their negative tax refund??

According to the Washington Post link:
"Obama’s tax proposal, meanwhile, would keep tax rates roughly the same except
for married couples making over $250,000 per year (or single earners making more than
$200,000 per year)."

Box you totally excuse the mistakes that were made by Carter, Clinton, and by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd involving the housing bubble that was a big part of the financial meltdown that you keep blaming Bush for.

Quoted from Box A Rox

According to the Washington Post link:
"Obama’s tax proposal, meanwhile, would keep tax rates roughly the same except
for married couples making over $250,000 per year (or single earners making more than
$200,000 per year)."

Roughly is a keyword, and the graph and chart pans that out.
Obama's definition of Rich or upper class is $250,000 or more a year, which means people under $250,000 a year are at the very least, middle class...sort of what Mitt said last week.

Why is Obamacare going to tax people who make as little as $30,000 a year in penalties for failure to buy health-care. Inflation caused by printing money is going to hit the poor who have to buy food, home heating fuel, gas for the car, and everything else they need to buy.

Quoted from 55tbird

Roughly is a keyword, and the graph and chart pans that out.
Obama's definition of Rich or upper class is $250,000 or more a year, which means people under $250,000 a year are at the very least, middle class...sort of what Mitt said last week.

So then Tbird... Romney's plan:
The lowest fifth of earners would see a TAX INCREASE of $143 each, and the richest would get a
$150,000 tax cut...
You are in favor of a TAX INCREASE when it's for the poorest of Americans...
so that the richest of Americans can get a TAX CUT??? Is that your idea of fairness??? Those least able to
pay have to pay $143 more???

Kind of the "Robin Hood In Reverse"  Steal from the poor... give to the rich!  

Quoted from Box A Rox

So then Tbird... Romney's plan:
The lowest fifth of earners would see a TAX INCREASE of $143 each, and the richest would get a
$150,000 tax cut...
You are in favor of a TAX INCREASE when it's for the poorest of Americans...
so that the richest of Americans can get a TAX CUT??? Is that your idea of fairness??? Those least able to
pay have to pay $143 more???

Kind of the "Robin Hood In Reverse"  Steal from the poor... give to the rich!  

First off, the majority of the Rich are paying a positive tax assessment, where most of the bottom 20% are paying NOTHING... The increase is smoke and mirrors. For the people that get MONEY back from the gov't, that is a negative tax assessment... we not talking about refunds here, we are talking money that was never paid in the first place. To me, it's the equivalent of a company bonus.. If my company reduces the bonus by $143, I would not consider that a reduction in salary.

Quoted from Shadow

Why is Obamacare going to tax people who make as little as $30,000 a year in penalties for failure to buy health-care. Inflation caused by printing money is going to hit the poor who have to buy food, home heating fuel, gas for the car, and everything else they need to buy.

You are exactly correct!!!!!! The lower middle class and the poor will get poorer....but that is the plan and always has been. There are no new jobs or new industires on the horizon. And as the middle class become poorer and more folks lose their jobs, there will surely be NO TAX MONEY available. So the government will be printing even MORE MONEY while trying to force those who make a decent buck to unfairly foot the bill.

AGAIN............don't get sucked into the bullsh!t......this has been the plan for decades by both the dems and reps...........obama was indeed the messiah for both parties. Now they will all  try to position themselves for the global government control!!!

Quoted from Box A Rox

Taxes will go back to where they were in the prosperous 90's under Clinton.  
After the GWB disaster, most Americans would LOVE to have the economy back to the successful
Clinton years.

no they won't....they will just get renamed and fees will be instituted...ALL PASSED ON.....

once the virtual/digital fiat is established no one will be able to tell where all the sh!t is going....AND GUESS WHAT??
those folks with all the cars/houses/boats etc WILL STILL HAVE THOSE THINGS.....and the rest will still have what they
have....

FLAT TAX
FLAT TAX
FLAT TAX

TRANSPARENCY

Quoted from 55tbird

First off, the majority of the Rich are paying a positive tax assessment, where most of the bottom 20% are paying NOTHING... The increase is smoke and mirrors. For the people that get MONEY back from the gov't, that is a negative tax assessment... we not talking about refunds here, we are talking money that was never paid in the first place. To me, it's the equivalent of a company bonus.. If my company reduces the bonus by $143, I would not consider that a reduction in salary.

1. Most of the bottom 20% are on SS, or welfare... How much do you think they should pay.
2. Because they don't pay a federal tax, Righties say they pay NO TAX.  Of course this isn't true.
3. 3000 millionaires pay NO TAX.  The scum scukin hogs, take take take... and pay nothing.
(Possibly Mittens Romney's one of them.  He won't tell us.)

Some poor working schmuck gets his big federal tax return... the entire $143 dollars in 2012... and takes
his family out to their once a year dinner at a real restaurant.  Romney thinks he's sucking from the system
and takes that $143 and gives it to a millionaire.

Can anyone defend that???

Box Mitt released his 2011 tax returns today and he made 13 million and change, paid 1.9 million in taxes and gave 4 million and change to charity so he paid 13.9% in taxes plus a 2 million charity deduction for a total of 20% tax. I know he didn't pay the 75% of his earnings like you want but there it is. He earned the money thru investments so therefore his tax rate is lower just like Buffett.

Quoted from Shadow

Box Mitt released his 2011 tax returns today and he made 13 million and change, paid 1.9 million in taxes and gave 4 million and change to charity so he paid 13.9% in taxes plus a 2 million charity deduction for a total of 20% tax. I know he didn't pay the 75% of his earnings like you want but there it is. He earned the money thru investments so therefore his tax rate is lower just like Buffett.

Did the Mitt pay ANY tax in the 8 years previous to 2010??? Any?  1 f'n dollar???

3000 millionaires pay NO TAX.
Another 24,000 Americans who make between $532,613 and $2.2 million per year, pay NO TAX.

Yet some poor working man under Romney's plan has to pay $143 more.  

Tell me how this is any where near fair?
A man who gets up every day and goes to work for a living at some crummy job has to pay for
the TAX CUT for millionaires.  

And you go along with this plan????

Quoted from Box A Rox

1. Most of the bottom 20% are on SS, or welfare... How much do you think they should pay.
2. Because they don't pay a federal tax, Righties say they pay NO TAX.  Of course this isn't true.
3. 3000 millionaires pay NO TAX.  The scum scukin hogs, take take take... and pay nothing.
(Possibly Mittens Romney's one of them.  He won't tell us.)

Some poor working schmuck gets his big federal tax return... the entire $143 dollars in 2012... and takes
his family out to their once a year dinner at a real restaurant.  Romney thinks he's sucking from the system
and takes that $143 and gives it to a millionaire.

Can anyone defend that???

the 'taxes' are the conversation we stay in so that everyone THINKS that's the issue....do you really think the 'poor'
could manage so called wealth in a fiat system?

I say flat tax....every man for himself...if you squander it that's what you get, if you get sick and spend it on
health care that's what you get, if you invest it to get more fiat then that's what you get, etc etc....

According to the tax advisors who keep his records his tax payments over the last 10 years have varied between 13% to 20% every year or he would be in jail.   Romney paid taxes for each of past 20 years, says campaign
Posted by
CNN Political Unit     

(CNN) - GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney paid taxes every year between 1990 and 2009, a notarized letter from his accountant will say, according to Romney's campaign.

Romney's full 2011 return, along with the letter from PricewaterhouseCoopers, LLP, will be posted later Friday on Romney's campaign website.