Mitt Romney's 'Clinging to Guns or Religion' Moment
By Conor Friedersdorf

Sep 17 2012, 7:18 PM ET 290

Why a secret recording from a fundraiser is very bad news for the Republican nominee



Speaking to a closed-door gathering of donors to his campaign, Mitt Romney made disparaging remarks about 47 percent of Americans. He didn't realize he was being secretly recorded.

Almost half of all Americans "believe that they are victims," he said, explaining that "these are people who pay no income tax," and think they're entitled to food, shelter, and medical care." I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives," he said, so "my job is not to worry about those people." If you're cutting Obama ads, this is as good as it gets.

Josh Barro predicts that this will cost Mitt Romney the election. It certainly plays into the criticism that he doesn't care about poor people and will govern on behalf of wealthier Americans.

But it also reminds me of Barack Obama's infamous statement during the 2008 election that rural voters "get bitter, they cling to their guns or religion." Those words were also said to donors at a private event, and broadcast only when a secret recording was made public. Rural voters aren't 47 percent of the electorate, but folks who like guns or religion are a rather large demographic.  

These sorts of remarks do double damage.

They needlessly insult some people whose votes the candidate would like to win. And beyond the particulars of what is said, they remind voters that candidate's public persona is phony and affected.

Four years ago a lot of people felt they got a glimpse of "the real Obama." They certainly saw a side of him that he hid when speaking to general audiences, as opposed to urban liberal supporters.

People will react the same way when they see this Romney tape. They'll decide, first of all, that he thinks a surprisingly broad swath of America is composed of losers who won't take responsibility for themselves. As damning, they'll see that the Romney of debates, speeches, and TV commercials speaks differently than the Romney who gets together with his moneyed backers.

On some level, Americans know politicians are phonies.

But you can't help liking a candidate less when you see that there really are rooms full of rich people where he seems to level with everyone much more than he does with the average American. You think, His opponent is right -- he really is hiding his true opinions!

It is truly amazing what a different view of politics the donor class gets. Obama plays to rooms like this too. This cycle, he's managed to keep his words from leaking (or perhaps, after his experience in the last cycle, he's more careful about what he says). As such, expect the Obama campaign to start using footage from the hidden video to start attacking Romney any day now. And know that if you could hear what Team Obama says when they think no one is listening, it would likely be every bit as off-putting (if substantively different). Politicians behave in public as if they're idealists with genuine affection for all Americans. It's unnerving to see how cynical and calculating they really are, though voters would do well to remember it always.

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Take a drive by the DSS building and see how many really want a job, they walk for miles just to get their check so they are sure able to work.

and they're all talking on those new cell phone things, better and more expensive than yours and mine.

One guy was actually sitting out there with a new ipad thing yesterday.

Who doesn't pay taxes???
Democrats?

NOPE!
It's those Govt hatin, Right Wing, Militia lovin, Gun totin CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS who don't pay taxes!

Has John Kerry paid  Mass. the taxes he owes on his yatch yet??

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Has John Kerry paid  Mass. the taxes he owes on his yatch yet??

LMAO!!!  Shadow!!!  You're a piece of work!!!

Faced with the FACTS... that it's the RED states who are screwing the USA by not paying their taxes...
It's the Republican voters who are sucking this government dry...
It's those REPUBLICAN VOTERS who pay NO TAXES...
and the best ya got is... John Kerry's Yatch!!!    

You mean all those states in the south that have most job growth because of their low state taxes.

NO ONE KNOWS WHO DOESN'T PAY TAXES AND AS THE PAPER FIAT DISAPPEARS NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW THE 'EQUALIZATION'

VIRTUAL VALUE....

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/28000.html

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People QuickFacts Mississippi
Population, 2011 estimate  2,978,512  

45% of the population = 1,340,330 people are "non-payers."  

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36000.html

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People QuickFacts New York
Population, 2011 estimate  19,465,197

"Only" 35% are non-payers... = 6,812,818, or better known as 2.29 TIMES the POPULATION (not number of people not paying, POPULATION) of Mississippi... but Mississippi is bad and New York is good.  Yeah.  OK.

Republicans Speaking Out Against Romney’s  47% Remarks:

~ The Republican governor of New Mexico, Susana Martinez
~ Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown
~ Connecticut Republican candidate Linda McMahon
~ Republican Senator from Nevada Dean Heller
~ New Hampshire Governor candidate, Republican Ovide Lamontagne
~ North Carolina Republican Congressional candidate Mark Meadows
~ Columnist  Bill Kristol
~ Peggy Noonan
~ David Brooks
~ GWB & McCain adviser Mark McKinnon

BOO-HOO-HOO!!!!!!!

WHO CARES WHAT HE SAID....HE WASN'T WRONG...OBAMA JUST DIDN'T SAY IT....if he did his bank account would be ZERO and he'd
be sending out checks to all Americans FROM HIS OWN POCKET....LIKE I SAID....he ain't jesus and he ain't a god, he's just
a human like everyone else and just like the REPS....

if he really wanted to change things he would be for a flat NON-SPECIAL TAX....right across the board regardless of your income..

NO ONE IS MORE EQUAL THAN ANOTHER....

I don't care if Romney cares...I don't care if Obama cares.  What caring means to these totalitarians is regulate my life.  

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BOO-HOO-HOO!!!!!!!

WHO CARES WHAT HE SAID....HE WASN'T WRONG...OBAMA JUST DIDN'T SAY IT....if he did his bank account would be ZERO and he'd
be sending out checks to all Americans FROM HIS OWN POCKET....LIKE I SAID....he ain't jesus and he ain't a god, he's just
a human like everyone else and just like the REPS....

if he really wanted to change things he would be for a flat NON-SPECIAL TAX....right across the board regardless of your income..

NO ONE IS MORE EQUAL THAN ANOTHER....

The wealthy are more equal due to preferential taxation considerations.

They have received tax cuts for 30 years while the rest of us have taken on their tax burden.

Flat tax only works if everyone pays tax on every dollar spent.

55% of corporations don't take part in taxpaying.