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Tommy
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As per Fox News:

"On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion....._words#ixzz255r5B29R


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Sally Kohn is a Fox News contributer and as left wing as you can get.
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left or right.....doesn't matter......who is lying.......we have not been told the truth by either side......

the politics have turned to attacks and nothing else....Fox news????.....never watch it......in fact.....

CSPAN ......you see everyone for who they are.....not who anyone says they are......
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Quoted from Shadow

Sally Kohn is a Fox News contributer and as left wing as you can get.


So?
Even if Charles Manson had written it, it still doesn't change the facts.


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It just shows how bias her opinion is.
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How is presenting facts being biased. The comments are about a recent speech and the errors made. Whe Obama makes his speech, there will be dozens (Repubs) claiming he is lying...this is politics, dirtyiness at its best.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from Tommy


So?
Even if Charles Manson had written it, it still doesn't change the facts.


Confirming that Tommy knows that winter is coming.








"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Confirming that Tommy knows that winter is coming.






Ummm, what does that mean exactly? You certainly say it often enough.


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If you missed Paul Ryan’s speech at the Republican National Convention last week and tried to play catch-up the next morning, you could be forgiven for concluding that nothing the Wisconsin congressman said was true.
Paul Ryan

AP

Twelve hours after the speech, Josh Marshall, editor of the liberal Talking Points Memo, popular among journalists, asked: “Will the Paul Ryan Lying Thing Break Through in the Mainstream Press?”

Um, yes. It would.

The mainstream media “fact checked” Paul Ryan’s speech with alacrity. At the Washington Post, for instance, four of the five most-read articles were, in effect, accusations that Ryan had lied. The New York Times published an article under the headline: “Ryan’s Speech Contained a Litany of Falsehoods.” The Associated Press accused Ryan of taking “factual shortcuts.” The Week magazine published not only “The media coverage of Paul Ryan’s speech: 15 Euphemisms for Lying,” but also “Why Paul Ryan thought he could get away with lying: 6 theories.”

Here’s the funny thing about most of these articles: They fail to cite a single fact that Ryan misstated or lie that he told. In most cases, the self-described fact-checks are little more than complaints that Ryan failed to provide context for his criticism of Barack Obama. For example, virtually every one of these articles included a complaint about Ryan’s comments on Obama and entitlement reform. In accusing Obama of failing to lead on entitlements, Ryan noted that Obama had ignored the findings of the Simpson-Bowles Commission that the president himself had empaneled. The complaint: Ryan did not mention that he had served on the commission and voted against its findings.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/assault-paul-ryan-ii_651387.html
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TOMMY has the hots for Ryan.

How sweet.
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Winter is coming, from the HBO series, Game Of Thrones

(I have the logo above on a t shirt)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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A thread that argues that it's better to vote for the liar you know than the liar you don't.  Or the other cliche, you don't switch liars in the middle of a race.  LOL!


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Quoted from 1975
If you missed Paul Ryan’s speech at the Republican National Convention last week and tried to play catch-up the next morning, you could be forgiven for concluding that nothing the Wisconsin congressman said was true.
Paul Ryan

AP

Twelve hours after the speech, Josh Marshall, editor of the liberal Talking Points Memo, popular among journalists, asked: “Will the Paul Ryan Lying Thing Break Through in the Mainstream Press?”

Um, yes. It would.

The mainstream media “fact checked” Paul Ryan’s speech with alacrity. At the Washington Post, for instance, four of the five most-read articles were, in effect, accusations that Ryan had lied. The New York Times published an article under the headline: “Ryan’s Speech Contained a Litany of Falsehoods.” The Associated Press accused Ryan of taking “factual shortcuts.” The Week magazine published not only “The media coverage of Paul Ryan’s speech: 15 Euphemisms for Lying,” but also “Why Paul Ryan thought he could get away with lying: 6 theories.”

Here’s the funny thing about most of these articles: They fail to cite a single fact that Ryan misstated or lie that he told. In most cases, the self-described fact-checks are little more than complaints that Ryan failed to provide context for his criticism of Barack Obama. For example, virtually every one of these articles included a complaint about Ryan’s comments on Obama and entitlement reform. In accusing Obama of failing to lead on entitlements, Ryan noted that Obama had ignored the findings of the Simpson-Bowles Commission that the president himself had empaneled. The complaint: Ryan did not mention that he had served on the commission and voted against its findings.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/assault-paul-ryan-ii_651387.html


You either lack the ability to research things, or you're a liar yourself, because there are hundreds of sites where the lies are listed categorically.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/30/paul-ryans-speech-audacious-untruths





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You KNOW you're a liar, when even Runners World magazine is debunking you.

http://news.runnersworld.com/2012/08/31/paul-ryan-says-hes-run-sub-300-marathon/


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Ryan said the president was responsible for Standard and Poor's downgrading US credit from AAA to AA+ in August 2011. He said of Obama's first term:

    It began with a perfect Triple-A credit rating for the United States; it ends with a downgraded America.

In fact, the downgrade was the result of refusal of Republicans in Congress to vote to raise the debt ceiling, despite pressure from the White House and most outside analysts.


So, Congress (it takes both houses) defeated this, basically not wanting the debt ceiling to rise to astromical proportions.  

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The United States public debt is the money borrowed by the federal government of the United States through the issue of securities by the Treasury and other federal government agencies.


So, has your personal debt ceiling gone up?  Can you just print more money and say everything's cool?  The credit rating dropped because there's no clear plan, and more impor
tantly no budget, to say "this is how we're going to spend our money".  Failing to raise the debt ceiling by Congress, I think, was VERY responsible.



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    [Obama] created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way and then did exactly nothing.

In early 2010 Obama created a bipartisan committee known as Bowles-Simpson to figure out how to balance the budget and hand its recommendations to the president. The final draft of the committee's report failed to win the necessary support of its members, however, falling three votes short.


So, one of Obama's own commissions failed to win support - and Ryan gets blamed? How's that work?  What par of what Ryan said is a lie?



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    A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, Obama said: 'I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.' That's what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn't last another year.

Ryan accurately quotes Obama, who visited the plant as a presidential candidate in February 2008. Four months later, GM announced the plant would drastically scale back production. The plant laid off most of its workforce in December 2008, before Obama took office. The "government support" Obama spoke of – his auto bailout plan, which took effect in early 2009 – did not arrive early enough to save the Janesville plant, but it is credited with saving the American auto industry.



What part of that is a lie?  

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    And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obamacare came at the expense of the elderly … So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama.

Barack Obama's budget plan calls for $716bn in cuts to Medicare spending over the next 10 years, but ...


Again, where's the lie?
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