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Smoking now banned in Schenectady parks
Ban passed by council also covers playgrounds; foreclosure issue slowed

By Cathleen F. Crowley
Published 10:40 p.m., Monday, August 27, 2012
  

SCHENECTADY – The City Council Monday night passed a smoking ban in city parks and playgrounds. In a separate council matter, tax bills for several of the city's nonprofits remain in limbo.

The council voted 6-0 in favor of the smoking ban, with one council member abstaining.

Councilman Vincent Riggi said he could not cast an unbiased vote because two of his sisters died from lung cancer at ages 46 and 56.

"I can't vote on this. I'm too emotional about this issue," said Riggi, who abstained.......................>>>>.....................>>>>.................Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/loca.....11.php#ixzz24psMmg2f
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The city banned a "Class A carcinogen" from it's parks... and why would anyone want a Class A carcinogen in their
parks?


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The city banned a "Class A carcinogen" from it's parks... and why would anyone want a Class A carcinogen in their
parks?


People should just use common sense, they shouldn't smoke near the tot lots or the playgrounds but for the whole park give me a break. Tobacco should be the last thing they should be worried about when I find bullets, needles, condoms, drug bags, beer cans thrown about in our parks.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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People should just use common sense, they shouldn't smoke near the tot lots or the playgrounds but for the whole park give me a break. Tobacco should be the last thing they should be worried about when I find bullets, needles, condoms, drug bags, beer cans thrown about in our parks.


So agreed.

But can you imagine the bullets flying and the police dept gets a call, "Hi I'm in the park walking my dog and there's someone on the other side of the lake who is smoking"

I also have to give credit to the great Councilman Riggi, the ONE councilman who DOES represent the residents and taxpayers.  He felt he could not be unbiased abstained.

Now, why does that Proctor's employee who gets paid with taxpayer money, never abstain when it come to the use of the taxpayer money on downtown?  That IS a MAJOR ETHICS issue!   She should NOT even be on the council because she doesn't care about the residents, she ONLY cares about her precious gold ceiling funded by the taxpayers





Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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How about banning cars in the park?




Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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How about banning cars in the park?


Standing next to a car, when used properly, will not kill you.  Standing next to a cigarette may kill you.  
For Americans so worried about "freedom", they accept blindly a proven carcinogen as 'acceptable'.  


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Bullets, needles, condoms, drug bags, beer cans and cigarettes... all should be banned in our parks.  All can be
dangerous to our kids and to adults... why accept any of them as "normal" and "allowable"?


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Standing next to a car, when used properly, will not kill you.  Standing next to a cigarette may kill you.  
For Americans so worried about "freedom", they accept blindly a proven carcinogen as 'acceptable'.  


If the car is running, it could, especially if you're standing next to it inside a small enclosed structure.  And it'll do it a lot quicker than cigarettes.


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If the car is running, it could, especially if you're standing next to it inside a small enclosed structure.  And it'll do it a lot quicker than cigarettes.


I agree.  Car exhaust and Cigarette smoke do have a lot in common and both should be regulated to a "Parking
Area" for cars, and a designated "Hack Up A Lung" area for smokers.  Preferably away from anything that
breathes.


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Box hasn't met a government ban he didn't like.  Unless it means banning the killing of unborn babies - that kind of talk is sacrilege.  

Smoking cigarettes in open air park = deadly
Sucking brain out of 8 month fetus = choice


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Bullets, needles, condoms, drug bags, beer cans and cigarettes... all should be banned in our parks.  All can be
dangerous to our kids and to adults... why accept any of them as "normal" and "allowable"?


The pool, lake, and playground equipment can also be dangerous to our kids if used improperly, should we stop those as well. Again people should just use common sense, if there is kids all over don't light up or just go to your car and smoke. Banning it will not stop it just like banning drugs didn't stop people from shooting up heroine in our parks. Also who is going to enforce this, our police who can't even stop the laws on the books already, yeah right.



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Box hasn't met a government ban he didn't like.  Unless it means banning the killing of unborn babies - that kind of talk is sacrilege.  

Smoking cigarettes in open air park = deadly
Sucking brain out of 8 month fetus = choice


How true



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Box hasn't met a government ban he didn't like.  Unless it means banning the killing of unborn babies - that kind of talk is sacrilege.  

Smoking cigarettes in open air park = deadly
Sucking brain out of 8 month fetus = choice


I'll have to consider that over my "Unborn Chicken Embryos" that I had for breakfast... and NO CICERO... Don't
call them EGGS!


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Smoking in the park... an easy topic... not a difficult issue to follow... but for Cicero, it's an invitation for a
thread hijack to his favorite subject... Zygotes!!!  He loves em!

Henry... are you Pro bullets, needles, condoms, drug bags, beer cans and cigarettes... in the park... or are you
against them in the park?
Since we can't keep any of them out of the park... it sounds as if you FAVOR them there.


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I'll have to consider that over my "Unborn Chicken Embryos" that I had for breakfast... and NO CICERO... Don't
call them EGGS!


blah...blah...blah...Heard it a million times.  Not going through it again...You must never have had any children or the ultrasound machine wasn't invented yet.  8 months gestation for a HUMAN BEING doesn't resemble a chicken yolk.  You may eat 8 month human fetus' for breakfast, not me.

Smoking in open air park = deadly unacceptable behavior
Watching the baby of a botched abortion slowly die on a stainless steel table = choice and freedom!


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