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CICERO
August 22, 2012, 7:27pm Report to Moderator

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RP, you can't just pull out...You have to listen to the generals on the ground.  Even if it means 200 months at war, so be it.  The generals call the shots, listen to any political candidate.  They'll tell you, they are advised by the generals on the ground.

BTW...Iraq, Vietnam, and Afghanistan are not wars as accurately labelled on the graph.  They are conflicts.  No declaration of war was made.  Maybe that has a little to do with the length of these wars conflicts.


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RP, you can't just pull out...You have to listen to the generals on the ground.  Even if it means 200 months at war, so be it.  The generals call the shots, listen to any political candidate.  They'll tell you, they are advised by the generals on the ground.


Army Chief of Staff, General Shinseki testified to the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that
"something in the order of several hundred thousand soldiers" would probably be required for postwar
Iraq. This was an estimate far higher than the figure being proposed by Secretary Rumsfeld in his
invasion plan, and it was rejected in strong language by both Rumsfeld and his Deputy Secretary
of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz, who was another chief planner of the invasion and occupation.

Had Bushy "listened to the Generals" especially General Eric Shinseki, the war and especially
the post war in Iraq would have gone much smoother.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Had Bushy "listened to the Generals" especially General Eric Shinseki, the war and especially
the post war in Iraq would have gone much smoother.



Nothing better than a smooth illegal invasion and withdraw.  Efficient killing and plundering of resources is critical to a successful invasion.


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BTW...Iraq, Vietnam, and Afghanistan are not wars as accurately labelled on the graph.  They are conflicts.  


Invasion and occupation, followed by new government to replace the old.

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