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mikechristine1
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So they say on the news, combined with fewer foreclosures.

The news said they're up 7.3%


Now, this is country wide.

But in Schenectady, we all KNOW that the mayor claimed he lowered values by 4%, but further, we all know---and the EVIDENCE proves it--that home have fallen probably 20% in Schenectady on the average.

Fewer foreclosures?   Define foreclosure.    Property tax foreclosure - UP big time in Schenectady.

And anyone one who wants to contradict these statements should produce evidence.  




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Of course, no posts to contradict the statement that in Schenectady home values are down and tax foreclosures are up.  

No posts to contradict, because there is no evidence to the contraary




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Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
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the values can only increase when there is a WANT for them


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Until the DEM morons cut spending and slash taxes the City will continue circling the drain. Instead the DEMS talk about festas, arts and farts events, the new moon anything except the $10 MILLION deficit and $100 MILLION indebtedness. Dump Marion Poterfield on Primary Day. Send a message even these idiots can understand. Got pit bulls?
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This is an incorrect statement....it should say......TAXES GOING UP!!!

Nobody is buying homes in schenectady!! We were talking to a guy who flips houses. He said he wouldn't touch the city no matter how cheap the houses are going for!!! He said that with the taxes so high, crime so bad and the fact that no one wants to move there........there is no profit to be made! TRUE STORY!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Quoted from bumblethru
This is an incorrect statement....it should say......TAXES GOING UP!!!

Nobody is buying homes in schenectady!! We were talking to a guy who flips houses. He said he wouldn't touch the city no matter how cheap the houses are going for!!! He said that with the taxes so high, crime so bad and the fact that no one wants to move there........there is no profit to be made! TRUE STORY!!


there hasn't been a profit in schdy since 1970
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Quoted from bumblethru
This is an incorrect statement....it should say......TAXES GOING UP!!!

Nobody is buying homes in schenectady!! We were talking to a guy who flips houses. He said he wouldn't touch the city no matter how cheap the houses are going for!!! He said that with the taxes so high, crime so bad and the fact that no one wants to move there........there is no profit to be made! TRUE STORY!!



Bumble, yes, taxes are going up.

But I took the thread title from national news story that said home values across the country were going up.

Thus, we could provide more EVIDENCE to show that the city is no where near as rosy and the downtown cheerleaders and the political cronies make it out to me.  

Yes, all around the city, throughout the country, home values are going up.   In Schenectady the home values are plummeting BIG TIME, while at the same time, the taxes are going up BIG TIME.  

Taxes going up, home values going down, tax foreclosures up, it's all in Schenectady city and NO ONE has been able to provide any EVIDENCE to dispute those statements---so no matter what imaginary person's name is available, he doesn't even bother  anymmore to comment on threads that show the truth about the city.




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The Schenectady housing market is going to BOOM in the very near future ... there's too much commercial and industrial development going on in OTHER communities for Schdy to be overlooked as a good place to bring your family, inexpensively!
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Average price per square foot for Schenectady NY was $105, an increase of 19.3% compared to the same
period last year. The median sales price for homes in Schenectady NY for Apr 12 to Jun 12 was $150,000
based on 71 home sales. Compared to the same period one year ago, the median home sales price increased
23%, or $28,000.

http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Schenectady-New_York/


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Quoted from Box A Rox
Average price per square foot for Schenectady NY was $105, an increase of 19.3% compared to the same
period last year. The median sales price for homes in Schenectady NY for Apr 12 to Jun 12 was $150,000
based on 71 home sales. Compared to the same period one year ago, the median home sales price increased
23%, or $28,000.

http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Schenectady-New_York/



ROFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Box, you really need to learn how to produce REAL EVIDENCE.   


It's quite obvious, you don't have the intelligence that I have




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Quoted from mikechristine1

ROFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Box, you really need to learn how to produce REAL EVIDENCE.   
It's quite obvious, you don't have the intelligence that I have


Well it's nice that you think so much of yourself... but
I did produce EVIDENCE... a link to some facts about home prices in Schdy.

Your 'superior' evidence???  Ummmm  Nuttin'


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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ROFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Box, you really need to learn how to produce REAL EVIDENCE.   


It's quite obvious, you don't have the intelligence that I have




Realestate entities will ALWAYS give a positive spin...aka bullcrap.....when it will line their pockets!!!! They're like your best friend until closing...then they laugh all the way to the bank!!!

Go right to the source and ask the folks who actually live in the city.....the ones that are struggling to pay their taxes.............the ones who have been trying to sell their homes with no bites.......the ones that have pitbulls for neighbors and drug dealers on their street corners and gun shots at least once a week!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Box, you forgot to read the rest of the "trulia" article you posted:

Under 'Value of Owner-occupied Housing Units' Schenectady's was listed at $71,200 while the NYS average is $148,700.

Both Schenectady household income $29,378 (NYS average $43,393) and Schenectady family income at $36,458 (NYS Average is $51,691).

Did you look at the crime stats?  Violent crime affects 1.16% of the population in Schenectady while the State average is .43%.

Not that Trulia is a reputable site, but you posted it, might as well post those numbers potential buyers are looking at.
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Quoted from Box A Rox


Well it's nice that you think so much of yourself... but
I did produce EVIDENCE... a link to some facts about home prices in Schdy.

Your 'superior' evidence???  Ummmm  Nuttin'



OK, box, when you click on YOUR link this is what you get






Notice that in this link there were 25 houses that SOLD   Do you see where it states that???    Now, the ones YOU provided that sold, I clicked on them, I was able to find 24 of the 25 that sold on YOUR submission.   Now, Box, get a brain, will you?   DO NOT include Niskayuna sales and Rotterdam sales in with Schenectady CITY sales!!!!   Ok???????  

Of YOUR "Schenectady" sales, you have these in the mix:
  





Now, of YOUR sample Box, here are the sales IN the CITY.   I have included market values which the city claims they were as of May 1 2011, and I have included what the city claims the market values were as of May 1, 2012.   "Market value" is what the CITY claims the houses would sell for.   But I have further included the ACTUAL SALE PRICES (yes, the "red" sale prices are the same as what is recorded in the county and city records),   I have further provided the math that shows what percent the houses ACTUALLY sold for as compared to what the city claims the market value is as of 5/1/2012.  








Also Box, just so you know, a few weeks, a couple months is NOT representative of market values.  It is NOT proper to choose a month of two sample from one year and compare it with the same month of two in the subsequent year.

At least six consecutive months of sales is required.





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And, for your info, Box, the little green boxes on the map are the LISTING prices.   Anyone with a brain knows that people start out asking one price but the houses sell for a different price.   In Schenectady city, the actual sale prices are much lower than the listing prices.   And the listing (asking) prices often START lower than what city claims what the house will actually sell for.

I guess you have not been following the various posts on these boards about the mayor's monthly taxpayer-paid bus tours of open houses?   I guess you have not been following the various posts on these boards of the houses on these tours where the original listing (asking) price is along with the listing DATE, followed my several price reductions over time---time frames which are often 6 months, 10 moths, 12 months that houses sit UNSOLD because virtually no one wants to buy a house IN the city


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