Box would you side with the government if they decided to just take over the country and declare us a dictatorship and place us under their rule like a Chavez type government?
Would you side with Timothy McVeigh and blow up US Federal buildings killing 168 Americans, many of them children... to protest the Waco and Ruby Ridge incidents? McVeigh hoped to inspire a revolt against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Just the opposite. The seeds of fear are being overcome. People are escaping the mental prisons that have been constructed by the government and media, using schooling and what is often referred to as news. We are living during exciting times.
I think it could happen here... just look at the rise in Right Wing Militia and the "Oathkeepers". Radical crazies who consider it their "RIGHT" to take up arms against their own government just because they had to register a car or pay a sales tax.
{[b]". [a tyrannical government bent on curbing individual freedoms"/b]??? Sounds like some of the rhetoric on this board.}
LOL! Yeah, people are upset at registering a car and paying state sales tax.
SURE...It has absolutely nothing to do with perpetual undeclared wars, sending our children to war under UN charter, assassinating citizens without due process of law, the NDAA legalizing the indefinite detainment of U.S. citizens without due process, the mandate to purchase corporate health insurance, the corruption and exclusion of participation in the political process(unless you can raise millions in corporate dollars), $15 trillion in debt and counting wrapped around our children's necks, billion dollar bailouts of corporations and the FED's quantitative easing debasing our currency slowly lowering everybody's standard of living.
Yeah, you're right, these are minor issues compared to paying sales tax.
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" a tyrannical government bent on curbing individual freedoms"
LOL! Yeah, people are upset at registering a car and paying state sales tax. SURE...It has absolutely nothing to do with perpetual undeclared wars, sending our children to war under UN charter, assassinating citizens without due process of law, the NDAA legalizing the indefinite detainment of U.S. citizens without due process, the mandate to purchase corporate health insurance, the corruption and exclusion of participation in the political process(unless you can raise millions in corporate dollars), $15 trillion in debt and counting wrapped around our children's necks, bailouts and the FED's quantitative easing debasing our currency slowly lowering everybody's standard of living. Yeah, you're right, these are minor issues compared to paying sales tax. Ahhh, yup, sounds about right.
It appears we now have Cicero and Henry lining up next to Timothy McVeigh, on the side of anti govt.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
It appears we now have Cicero and Henry lining up next to Timothy McVeigh, on the side of anti govt.
You sound like an extremist box. Extremist like you ALWAYS bring things to the extreme.
Sounds like box can't wait until the practice of political prisoners begins so people like me and Henry that publicly question the government are locked up. The next step box will be cheering for is the banning of books that speak against the state. Those books will be called Domestic Terrorist 'how to' books.
Public Dissent = Domestic Terrorist = Enemy of the State
Are you more free or less free than you were 10 years ago Box? I bet when Bush was in office you were probably one of those that blasted him and our government for things like the Patriot Act and the MCA. I'm sure you were against warrantless wiretapping and seizures without a judges approval. So what changed Box, why do you now support the government that hasn't changed the things you were once against.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Two Sovergn Citizens (Right Wing Crazies) who sound a lot like a few of the Righties on this board shoot two cops over a traffic stop.
They didn't need a drivers license... they didn't have to register their car... They, just like Cicero, opposed " a tyrannical government bent on curbing individual freedoms"... and two cops died, two more cops wounded before the police killed this father and 16 year old son in a shootout. Right Wing Militia Crazies... Oathkeepers... Sovergn Citizens.... a huge threat to FREEDOM in AMERICA.
From the video: "WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SO THAT WE CAN GO DUCK HUNTING..." "WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS IN ORDER TO SHOOT OUR OWN POLITICIANS, TO SHOOT THE POLICE, TO SHOOT YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, YOUR PRESIDENT, YOUR CONGRESSMAN, YOUR SENATORS."
These a$$holes call themselves patriots... they aren't fit to be in the same room with Americas Patriots.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You sound like an extremist box. Extremist like you ALWAYS bring things to the extreme. Sounds like box can't wait until the practice of political prisoners begins so people like me and Henry that publicly question the government are locked up. The next step box will be cheering for is the banning of books that speak against the state. Those books will be called Domestic Terrorist 'how to' books. Public Dissent = Domestic Terrorist = Enemy of the State
It's called the "Slippery Slope", but of course you already know that... I taught you that fallacy, yet you use it as if it were a valid point.
Very dissapointing
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Never approved of any group or person that condones violence against any branch of government so I was against Tim McVeighs views against government. That being said I would not stand by and let some person or group take over the country and trash the Constitution and all it stands for. Would you side with a government that wants to force us into a dictatorship form of rule Box?
Are you more free or less free than you were 10 years ago Box? I bet when Bush was in office you were probably one of those that blasted him and our government for things like the Patriot Act and the MCA. I'm sure you were against warrantless wiretapping and seizures without a judges approval. So what changed Box, why do you now support the government that hasn't changed the things you were once against.
The Patriot act was passed in a fit of US hysteria... some of itmay be necessary, some not, but why do you automatically assume that I agree with it or even support it? I opposed wiretapping, seizures and opposed 'rendition' then and I still do... why would you assume that I support it now just because Obama is President. I am just as free as I was 10 years ago. I've lost none of my Rights but I am threatened by Domestic Right Wing Terrorists that are a threat to every American Citizen.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yawn... while sad the gangs in Schenectady have killed more people then this whole lame a** movement
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Two Sovergn Citizens (Right Wing Crazies) who sound a lot like a few of the Righties on this board shoot two cops over a traffic stop.
They didn't need a drivers license... they didn't have to register their car... They, just like Cicero, opposed " a tyrannical government bent on curbing individual freedoms"... and two cops died, two more cops wounded before the police killed this father and 16 year old son in a shootout. Right Wing Militia Crazies... Oathkeepers... Sovergn Citizens.... a huge threat to FREEDOM in AMERICA.
From the video: "WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SO THAT WE CAN GO DUCK HUNTING..." "WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS IN ORDER TO SHOOT OUR OWN POLITICIANS, TO SHOOT THE POLICE, TO SHOOT YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, YOUR PRESIDENT, YOUR CONGRESSMAN, YOUR SENATORS."
These a$$holes call themselves patriots... they aren't fit to be in the same room with Americas Patriots.
I won't even waste my time listing the brutality perpetrated by the peace officers against innocent Americans. Oh, did I say innocent? There is no such thing as innocence against state brutality. When a peace officer beats your head in, it is always justified, because the officer was "following procedure".
What is funny is, you say a threat to "AMERICA FREEDOM". Are you serious?
Last Friday, US Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced HR 6357, a bill which aims to ‘prohibit the extrajudicial killing of United States citizens’ by the federal government. In other words, in the Land of the Free, they need to pass a law to prevent the government from indiscriminately murdering its own citizens.
Now if this doesn’t give one reason to pause and consider the distortions of liberty that have taken place in western civilization, I don’t know what will. Think about it:
Does a free society send government hit men to eliminate anyone they perceive to be an enemy of the state?
Does a free society have hundreds of police agencies, each with the authority to deprive a man of his life, liberty and property in their sole discretion?
Does a free society have hundreds of thousands of laws, codes, rules, regulations, and policies which effectively criminalize nearly every aspect of one’s existence?
Does a free society lead the world in prison population?
Does a free society hunt down criminals and terrorists by treating its citizens like criminals and terrorists?
Does a free society tell its citizens what foods they are / are not allowed to consume?
Does a free society steal your money at gunpoint to buy bombs that they drop by remote control on brown people in faraway lands?
Does a free society debase its currency and plunder the purchasing power of its citizens?
Does a free society saddle unborn generations with obligations they never signed up to bear?
Does a free society award near total control of the economy, the money supply, and everything tied to it, to a tiny elite few?
Does a free society brainwash its citizens into believing that they live in a free society? (at least the Chinese know they’re not free…)
Ask yourself, are you really living in a free society? Are you free? If not, why not? What else could possibly be more important?
It takes courage to answer honestly. But once you realize the truth and begin to see the system for what it is, it can be a liberating and life-changing experience.
You’ll find that there are places where you can live free in this world. There are ways to preserve your dignity, your privacy, your livelihood. You’ll find that you can build great camaraderie and mutual trust with like-minded souls because you share the same values, not the same color passport.
My guess is that you’re reading this because you’ve already started down the road to freedom. But you might feel alone… intellectually isolated in a sea of automatons.
You’re not alone. More and more people are waking up every day and beginning to realize the incredible fraud that has been perpetrated against them. When enough of them figure it out, this system will be finished.
That’s why I fundamentally believe that today is one of the most exciting times to be alive since the French Revolution. And we’re just getting warmed up.
If you have any friends or loved ones who still exemplify that self-deluded, bombastic serf mentality, I encourage you to pass this along to them… and challenge them to answer honestly.
Never approved of any group or person that condones violence against any branch of government so I was against Tim McVeighs views against government. That being said I would not stand by and let some person or group take over the country and trash the Constitution and all it stands for. Would you side with a government that wants to force us into a dictatorship form of rule Box?
Of course not. Do you see a dictator? I don't. The only place I even hear of that kind of thing is on Right Wing Rabid Radio and FoxSnooze.
If you fear a dictatorship in this country... it just proves that Right Wing Fear is working and seems to be working very well on you.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yes WE ARE FREE, WE ARE FREE, WE ARE FREE!!! Keep on repeating it enough, you start believing it.
A DEMOCRAT Congressman has introduced a bill to prevent the government from KILLING THEIR OWN CITIZENS. That's the legislative actions of a free people.
Exept the government can spy on you with no probable cause It can seize your property without a warrant It can kill you without a trial It can make you buy a service you don't want
That is a short list of what freedoms you lost just in 10 years, but just keep on repeating land of the free >
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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