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After years of efforts to spruce up downtown left lower Union Street and North Broadway in the dust, that area is fi nally beginning to see some tender loving care head its way.

WTF??????    "....efforts....downtown"   did what???????     It "...left lower Union and North Broadway in the dust."

What did the wild uncontrolled spending on downtown do to the rest of the city?   It left the rest of the city ignored, crime ridden, ever increasing number of vacant and abandoned houses, attraction to vagrants, bad sidewalks that homeowners cannot afford to repair---but homeowners MUST pay for the new sidewalks downtown!


Then look at that other phrase, "...that area is finally....see some tender loving care head it's way."

How about some tender loving care for:   Albany St, Hulett St, Craig St, Duane Ave, Eastern Ave, Brandywine Ave, Becker St, Bradley St, Crane St, Chrisler Ave, AND ALL THE SIDE STREETS OFF these rather main streets?    

How about it?????     DV, what do YOU say?   Would you support stopping spending on downtown and spend it on the neighborhoods where people live?

The whole city needs some "tender loving care."    So, in the words of DV, "more needs to be done."   I guess that tender loving care will eventually be extended to areas outside of downtown, i.e, the NEIGHBORHOODS, i.e., the places where the people live who are paying for downtown.   Well, if they've been working on two blocks of downtown for 15 years and that isn't near done yet, and there are no retail stores downtown, and there are tons of vacant office spaces, and still no one is renting any apartments downtown, well, AT THIS RATE is it possible that the city might BEGIN to give tender loving care to the neighborhoods by the year 3000??????

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

That area and the city/county  in general does not need another bar/restaurant.  North Center Street/North Broadway was once lined with commercial and light industrial buildings which used the New York Central railroad and the Erie Canal to receive and ship out goods/products/supplies.   It also included some residential units such as they were in that time period.   The city/county needs to take a clue from the past ---- #1) you need more than bar/restaurants to make a city/county thrive  and #2) you need a good MIXTURE of residential, retail, office and industry.

And this is the guy that was overjoyed to cheer for the savage, the mayor of BS and plex and all the WILD UNCONTROLLED spending on downtown by STEALING from the homeowners, and the result the downtown work has been only plummeting property values, a DRASTICLLY REDUCED tax base, and almost the highest taxes in the whole country.


  

Lets repave upper Union Street.  It has only been repaved 4 times in 5 years.  

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How about some tender loving care for:   Albany St, Hulett St, Craig St, Duane Ave, Eastern Ave, Brandywine Ave, Becker St, Bradley St, Crane St, Chrisler Ave, AND ALL THE SIDE STREETS OFF these rather main streets?    

How about it?????     DV, what do YOU say?   Would you support stopping spending on downtown and spend it on the neighborhoods where people live?

Where people live temporarily.

They are planning on taking all the rundown properties by targeted enforcement by the police and code enforcement.

Let's see, does this sound good or not?

RE:   308 Union St

Sold in 2005 for $190,000

Then it was sold again 8/15/10 for $350,000

Then Zachen bought it 11/19/10 for $105,000


City claims it's worth $181,827, thus the assessment is $189,000


Michael Rochette and Melissa Bobo   (hahaha) are the names behind this Zachen.


Let's see, once something is done with the property, it will be assessed for $3 mil but "wholly tax exempt" and there will be no end date for the exemption.   That will cause the financially struggling homeowners to take on ADDITIONAL tax burden---the burden on a $3 mil property.


DV, hurry up, you better buy that condo in the Stockade, I said earlier the value could triple, but with this project your $50,000 condo should be worht $200,000 in less than five years!!!!


  

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Then it was sold again 8/15/10 for $350,000

Then Zachen bought it 11/19/10 for $105,000

In 3 months it lost 240k in value - and they ACCEPTED THAT??

I'm underwater in my mortgage, but WOW not that much.

P

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lans for a restaurant at 308 Union St. are moving along with some new funding, while economic development officials are in the process of accepting a bid on sidewalk improvements in the area.

it will be a beer garden/club....learned of this

Quoted from 1975

In 3 months it lost 240k in value - and they ACCEPTED THAT??

I'm underwater in my mortgage, but WOW not that much.

Obviously it was the city, metroplex or the IDA that paid $350,000 and sold it for less than half.

Of course, it is easy for a bunch of nayboob a-holes to sit back and criticize the people who are actually DOING something to turn the city and county around after years of neglect and mismanagement by a series of Republican administrations/legislatures at the city and county levels.   They (the nayboobs) are cowards who hide behind user names (most with as many user names as they have personalities) rather than actually getting off their duffs and doing something CONSTRUCTIVE to build up their community.

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Of course, it is easy for a bunch of nayboob a-holes to sit back and criticize the people who are actually DOING something to turn the city and county around after years of neglect and mismanagement by a series of Republican administrations/legislatures at the city and county levels.   They (the nayboobs) are cowards who hide behind user names (most with as many user names as they have personalities) rather than actually getting off their duffs and doing something CONSTRUCTIVE to build up their community.

oh...where's the f'en engraved gold plated watches...this couldn't be more Atlas Shrugged than the book itself...

Such a hail mary pass on the part of Metroplex...what....are they afraid of a State audit too.

After the plex wasted $100 million taxpayer dollars on less of a 2,500 job creation NOW they want to go into a different area of the City??

We need another bar, let's move the shootings around the City a bit more.

Chumps.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Of course, it is easy for a bunch of nayboob a-holes to sit back and criticize the people who are actually DOING something to turn the city and county around after years of neglect and mismanagement by a series of Republican administrations/legislatures at the city and county levels.   They (the nayboobs) are cowards who hide behind user names (most with as many user names as they have personalities) rather than actually getting off their duffs and doing something CONSTRUCTIVE to build up their community.

DV, it's called "constructive criticism"

You see, since you do NOT own a house, and do NOT pay taxes, you do NOT know how people in the city, with household incomes of roughly $37,000 struggle to pay the taxes of the millionaires downtown.

You see, DV, you have no job, you sponge off your "two mommies" instead becoming a man and moving out on your own like a normal man does.  Your wake up call might come when your two benefactors leave this world  and you have to support yourself.  

But that aside, every reputable financial planner and/or accountant would tell a couple anywhere in the country that they need to cut expenses in order to avoid losing their home (inability to pay a mortgage) or winding up bankrupt.    But I guess you would say that the financial planner or the accountant is a nayboob.

When a parent tells their (adult) child that the he or she needs to stop spending money on non-essential things or else he or she won't have money for necessities, I guess you would say that the parent is being a nayboob, is being negative.   I guess you would say that the parent should give the kid money to help "build the kid up"

Obviously when teacher tells the student(s) that he is going to fail the course if he doesn't study, then according to you, the teacher is being a nayboob, the teacher needs to build the student up, pass the student to the next grade even if the kid is failing.

Just like Schenectady.   To tell them to rein in their spending, to state the truths--the wild spending is hurting the residents--these things NEED to be said.  

We actually are trying to build up the city (or town or county if that is the topic).    In order for the city to exist, it needs people to live in it, it needs homeowners.  In order for people to live IN the city and own homes, the taxes have to be low enough for people to be able to afford them.   In order for people to be able to afford the taxes, the city must reduce spending AND require the downtown properties to pay their own taxes instead of making the homeowners pay them.   It is criticism, but it is constructive criticism

Someday when you grow up and become a man and move out on your own, IF you ever do, perhaps you'll learn.

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Such a hail mary pass on the part of Metroplex...what....are they afraid of a State audit too.

After the plex wasted $100 million taxpayer dollars on less of a 2,500 job creation NOW they want to go into a different area of the City??

We need another bar, let's move the shootings around the City a bit more.

Chumps.

I think Metroplex has probably wasted more than $500 million since they were created.

That would be 225 million in grants, 225 million in loans and fifty million in operation of itself.

They are on track to spend a lot more than that in the next 10 years.

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Well I'll predict that the resturant at 308 Union will go belly up.  first of all they arent sure what they want to be.....not a good sign, also the (WOULD-BE ?????? )owners are "reluctant to identify themselves".  Most well ran resturants that I know are owned by people who want to be recognized.....better have good food.  

Was wondering the same thing.   Why the secret of who the owners are.   After all aren't the taxpayers ENTITLED to know to whom THEIR tax dollars are being funded to/for?   As an aside was also curious at to when the Union St./Barrett St. condos(?)/Apts. are inhabited will they be subject to the noise issues related to the bars existing on either side of them.   Union Inn on one side and the one-two up above them.   Remember this was an issue with the tenants in the Stockade surrounding Clintons Ditch with their outdoor events.   Also the now closed bar across from City Hall had an outdoor patio in the back that created a noise issue as well to surrounding inhabitants.