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Box A Rox
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This is proof that you don't know ANYTHING about hospice!!!
They love follks like you and how your translate what the lame stream media feeds ya!
You are a true 'clueless' follower of GOV ALMIGHTY!!!


So tell me then Bumbler...  If Hospice is a "GOVERNMENT ENTITY" as you say it is...  
What part of Government runs Hospice?  What Dept pays the management of Hospice???

Of course some taxpayer dollars do go to pay for Govt services... but Taxpayer dollars also
pay for services provided by Boeing, General Electric, and most major insurance companies... are
they GOVERNMENT ENTITIES also???


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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So tell me then Bumbler...  If Hospice is a "GOVERNMENT ENTITY" as you say it is...  
What part of Government runs Hospice?  What Dept pays the management of Hospice???

Of course some taxpayer dollars do go to pay for Govt services... but Taxpayer dollars also
pay for services provided by Boeing, General Electric, and most major insurance companies... are
they GOVERNMENT ENTITIES also???


That would be the Department of Health And Human Services, the same one that takes the "Federal Insurance Contribution Act" or FICA tax out of my paycheck every time I get it.  And whether Boeing, GE and other insurance companies are government entities, if they get their money from there, yes, they are.  That means also that NBC is an arm of the government, since they are owned by GE, who gets taxpayer money.  Government regulated broadcast media.


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So tell me then Bumbler...  If Hospice is a "GOVERNMENT ENTITY" as you say it is...  
What part of Government runs Hospice?  What Dept pays the management of Hospice???


That would be the Department of Health and Human Services.  Medicare is functioning as Hospice's accounts receivable department.


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That would be the Department of Health And Human Services, the same one that takes the "Federal Insurance Contribution Act" or FICA tax out of my paycheck every time I get it.  And whether Boeing, GE and other insurance companies are government entities, if they get their money from there, yes, they are.  That means also that NBC is an arm of the government, since they are owned by GE, who gets taxpayer money.  Government regulated broadcast media.


(I guess Bumbler was stumped and had to get Rampage to answer for him.  )

By your definition almost All US Corporations would then be considered Government Entities!  
I'll stick with the rest of the USA and consider Governments to be governments, corporations to be
corporations and non profits to be non profits.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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By your definition almost All US Corporations would then be considered Government Entities!  


Yeah...That's how fascist governments work.  


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That would be the Department of Health and Human Services.  Medicare is functioning as Hospice's accounts receivable department.


Cic is making it up again.  He posts his opinion and bias as if it were fact.

Hospice Funding:

Hospices receive funds from government programs or private insurance, from donations made by the
public or other corporations, and from grants donated by charitable foundations. Hospices are
reimbursed by Medicare, Medicaid, or private insurance for care provided to the terminally ill.


When the facts don't agree with the Conservatives agenda... Make Up New Facts!!!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Unless you are 'in' the healthcare industry...................you are just a victim of the lame stream media and GOV ALMIGHT!

And thank you rampage!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Cic is making it up again.  He posts his opinion and bias as if it were fact.

Hospice Funding:

Hospices receive funds from government programs or private insurance, from donations made by the
public or other corporations, and from grants donated by charitable foundations. Hospices are
reimbursed by Medicare, Medicaid, or private insurance for care provided to the terminally ill.


When the facts don't agree with the Conservatives agenda... Make Up New Facts!!!  


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Hospices prepare for Medicare cuts
By Dan Verel, Business Journal Staff Reporter

NORTH BAY — Facing up to $10 billion in cuts to Medicare reimbursement, hospice leaders had hoped the passage of the federal health bill in March would blunt the impact of such a sharp hit. Although the bill lessened the cut to $7.8 billion, hospice and palliative care will still be significantly affected, North Bay end-of-life care providers said.

Despite the decrease in Medicare funding, which most hospices are heavily reliant upon given that they traditionally serve patients over 65 years of age, some provisions of the bill will be beneficial, said Kitty Whitaker, chief operating officer of Hospice by the Bay in Larkspur. The nonprofit palliative care center served 2,600 patients in 2009 – a 14 percent increase from the previous year – and sees about 320 patients a day in San Mateo, San Francisco, Marin and Sonoma counties. About 85 percent of operating revenue comes from Medicare.

http://www.northbaybusinessjournal.com/20959/hospices-prepare-for-medicare-cuts/


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Executive pay, staff cuts ‘upsetting’ to hospice founder
West Palm Beach — The pioneering founder of Hospice of Palm Beach County says she is troubled by pay for CEO David Fielding that shot past half a million dollars — boosted by an $182,400 bonus — before nearly 5 percent of the staff lost their jobs.

“It’s just very upsetting that a CEO for a nonprofit can make that much money,” said Stella Monchick-West, 90, who started one of the state’s first hospices out of her own home in 1978. “It should be applied elsewhere.”

Volunteer hospice board chairman John Marino defended the pay as appropriate to “attract and retain the best possible people.”
The spirit of service is the same but a lot of things have changed since the organization’s early days, Marino said.

“We’re a very complex organization,” Marino said. “We’re obviously very different relative to when Stella started the organization, though the heart is the same.”

A venture that began with a patient count in the single digits more than three decades ago now serves more than 1,000 a day, he said.
The president and chief financial officer of 1st United Bancorp Inc. in West Palm Beach, Marino said he agreed to serve on the board after personal experience with the hospice led him to volunteer.

Bonus and incentive compensation added to the paychecks of other executives besides Fielding’s $545,897 total, records show. Bonus pay of $67,000 for chief operating officer Barbara Ivanko expanded her reported total to $263,427. A $54,000 bonus for vice president Jennifer Kast bumped her above $224,000. The figures come from documents the organization submitted to the IRS along with financial results for the 12 months ended Sept. 30, 2011.

Hospice officials, who last year reported 974 employees and 600 volunteers, initially said the workers let go amounted to less than 5 percent of the workforce but did not provide a specific number. A hospice spokeswoman said Friday the number laid off — and not placed in another position — was 34.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/business/executive-pay-staff-cuts-upsetting-to-hospice-foun/nPQC4/


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(I guess Bumbler was stumped and had to get Rampage to answer for him.  )

By your definition almost All US Corporations would then be considered Government Entities!  
I'll stick with the rest of the USA and consider Governments to be governments, corporations to be
corporations and non profits to be non profits.  


Nobody asked me to answer for anybody.  I happen to know an answer, I give it, and unlike some people in these parts, if I don't, I either research and find the answer or wait for someone else to answer, then verify.  This was a simple history lesson.  As far as almost all US corporations being government entities, yes, that's a fact, due to the way that our government has been turned over the past 50-75 years.  Government will only be government, and corporations will only be corporations, when they both decide to live within the parameters of what they're supposed to be.  Until then, they are one in the same, groups doing favors for other groups.  And the only thing I would ever consider a non-profit is a group where nobody gets a paycheck.  If someone gets a paycheck, someone is profiting, therefore, it's not a non-profit.


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More of those selfless not-for-profit Hospice providers.  

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TEMPLE TERRACE, Fla. - How much is too much to pay somebody to run a couple of hospices?

Kathy L. Fernandez made a total of $862,858 overseeing two Tampa Bay area non-profit hospices for the 12 months that ended Dec. 31, 2010, the most recent year for which compensation data were available.

As president and chief executive officer of Chapters Health System Inc., Fernandez is in charge of Lifepath Hospice Inc., which provides palliative care in Hillsborough County, and Good Shepherd Hospice Inc., which serves Hardee, Highland and Polk counties. Both hospices have their headquarters in Temple Terrace.

Fernandez is a registered nurse with a bachelor of science degree in nursing and a master's degree in health care administration, according to the company's annual report.

Her base salary was $399,274 in 2010. By comparison, Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn's annual salary is $150,000.  Compensation for Fernandez included a $104,810 bonus.

A spokeswoman for Chapters Health System provided a written statement in response to questions from the ABC Action News I-Team. Patty Klein, a public relations specialist at Chapters Health System, noted that the company includes not only the two hospices but a pharmacy and a medical staffing concern.

"Chapters Health is, first and foremost, committed to providing outstanding care and services to patients and their families," the statement read. "A critical element of that commitment is the ability to attract, develop and retain the best and brightest professionals in the field."

A compensation committee of the company's board of directors uses a personnel consultant and a law firm to help design the pay packages for Chapters Health System executives, according to the statement.

In an indication that end-of-life care has become big business in Florida, Fernandez isn't the highest-paid hospice CEO in the state.

Michael P. Gallagher, CEO of Gainesville-based North Central Florida Hospice Inc., earned a total of $2.6 million in 2010. North Central Florida Hospice, which does business as Haven Hospice, is an arm of Santa Fe Healthcare Inc., which pays Gallagher for his work at the hospice.

The non-profit Santa Fe Healthcare also owns a large non-profit health insurer, AvMed Inc., and a chain of non-profit retirement homes. A spokesman for Santa Fe Healthcare says Gallagher heads the parent company as well as the hospice. His total compensation reflects his responsibility for overseeing all of Santa Fe Healthcare. The company claims only $144,000 of Gallagher's $2.6 million compensation in 2010 was for hospice work.
Back in the Bay area, the second highest-paid hospice boss was Marge Maisto, president and CEO of Sarasota's Tidewell Hospice Inc., at $367,563 for the year that ended June 30, 2010.

In third place in the Bay area was the late Mary J. Labyak, who was paid a total of $317,481 as president and CEO of the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast Inc. for the year ended Sept. 30, 2010. Labyak, a nationally known pioneer of the modern hospice movement, died of cancer in February.



Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/d.....igures#ixzz21T3x8CCf


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Yeah...That's how fascist governments work.  


You don't really know what that word means, do you?



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Yeah...That's how fascist governments work.  

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You don't really know what that word means, do you?


Tommy,
Cic and I have discussed this wording several times.  
I use the dictionary and politically accepted meaning of the word "Fascist"...
Cicero sorta makes it up as he goes along and uses the word "Fascist" as if it means what he wants it to
mean.  

Cic really doesn't know the meaning of the word... but that doesn't matter to him...
I've posted the definition but he prefers his own version... not the one every one else uses.

The photo that you posted is directed at people like Cic who invent their own history and terms.


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Quoted from CICERO
Yeah...That's how fascist governments work.  



Tommy,
Cic and I have discussed this wording several times.  
I use the dictionary and politically accepted meaning of the word "Fascist"...
Cicero sorta makes it up as he goes along and uses the word "Fascist" as if it means what he wants it to
mean.  

Cic really doesn't know the meaning of the word... but that doesn't matter to him...
I've posted the definition but he prefers his own version... not the one every one else uses.

The photo that you posted is directed at people like Cic who invent their own history and terms.


He doesn't know what ANY of them mean.
To him, all 3 words, are just different levels of BAD .

1. Socialism - BAD
2. Communism - VERY BAD
3. Fascism - OMG! HITLER! HITLER!

He's so delusional he thinks we live in a democracy.


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everyone knows we don't live in a democracy....sh!t as long as I can stand in line, pardon me, I mean drive-thru some
fast food joint with my overweight lazy self, then drive through the local 'legal drug dealer' and get my zocor and prevacid and
insulin and blood pressure med, and then be able to get my nys lotto ticket account up to date on-line...I'm good to go...

who the Fu(k needs anything/one other than Daddy Bloomberg and the likes....

because in 'the end' hospice is waiting to 'catch me'.....

although I should consider myself lucky I don't fit into a movie theater seat, otherwise I could be killed in a movie theater by
my communist neighbor...*tic* (just in case you couldn't figure it out)

there's no hospice involved when:

car accident
plane crash
drowning
suicide
murder
skiing accidents
aneurysm
cardiac death
etc etc etc

what makes any other death more important????????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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