unfortunatly, a lot of these people are young kids who aren't on mom and dad's insurance anymore..a lot of self pay...a lot of non-local people...my gut tells that a lot of the bills are not going to be paid...could be wrong though!
Could be, unless they are over 26 years old, in which case, they aren't young kids, just dead beats.
Could be, unless they are over 26 years old, in which case, they aren't young kids, just dead beats.
what's funny is that society will still call them kids....until they hurt someone else then they get called "26 year old woman" "26 year old man"
until they commit a crime, they are just an ignorant 'kid'....it's just funny how we tend to 'protect' our kids from responsibility, choice, consequence......that is until we say "look at what that a$$hole did"......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
I've done sound for an awful lot of outdoor concerts over the years, and 30,000 people isn't that much at all.
yep................I just think that number was exaggerated (it was the one the gazette music reviewer came up with, the other reporter stuck with the 12,000) it was prob'ly somewhere in between, I'd guess high teens.........that's why I always preferred bluegrass festivals........al ot less people (Greyfox next weekend, one of the bigger ones on the east coast, only sells 4000 full fest tickets, I'm not sure what they end up selling in day passes, but I'd find it hard to believe if they sold more than 3-4000 on a Fri. or Sat.) but ya know I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of dehyd. and overindulging emergencies is actually higher................
In NYS people are covered until the age of 29 because we are even more progressive than other states. The new federal legislation allows parents to continue offering insurance coverage to children up to age 26. How does this impact New York?
Federal health reform requires insurers to provide coverage to adult children as dependents on their parents' policy up to their 26th birthday. This provision takes effect in September 2010, but many insurers have opted to implement this coverage extension early.
New York has a law allowing children to stay on their parents' plan until age 29, but under different terms than the federal health reform law. New York Law extends the availability of health insurance coverage to young adults through the age of 29 to assist young adults who do not have access to employer-sponsored health insurance. This law is sometimes referred to as the "Age 29" law, because it allows young adults to continue or obtain coverage under a parent's policy through the age of 29. The law provides two distinct ways in which coverage may be extended: a "young adult option" and a "make available" option. More information on this law is available on the New York State Department of Financial Services website.
Thanks for the link Alias, some of my younger friends go every year and say they have the times of their lives. I'm thinking about giving it ago next year, they get some pretty solid acts up there, and quite the variety as well. Great to see such a cool event happening in our area, hopefully all the big government types don't let one or two idiots ruin it for everyone.
yeah the traffic on mariaville road was out of hand today (actually it was nice to see for a change) - imagine if the event was held downtown - it would be a total Fu{k up
to bad all the traffic was routed thru rt 30 and none of the local business could make a good dollar on attendies - great job state and county leaders
Unless something crazy happened between Saturday afternoon and now, the Ellis numbers don't sound nearly as bad as someone here suggested. In fact, I find them kind of low given the nature of the drug use, the number of people and how tightly they were packed in. I'm not sure on numbers, but 12,000 seems way too low and 30,000 seems a bit high. Taking the middle ground and saying 20,000, having 35 people treated over two and a half days, with only 10 admitted to the hospital sound REALLY LOW, all things considering.
This nonsense about deaths comes every year. It's an urban myth that seems to get worse every year. Last year, it was seven deaths. This year, it's 13. Truth is, there was one death. If OD deaths were that prevalent at Bisco, we'd have some parents screaming bloody murder. We'd see law suits. And yes, we'd see the media having a field day.
I've been to Bisco plenty of times and can say it's no better or worse than any other contemporary rock festival. Actually, I think it's kind of better. Bisco, at the very least, is VERY peaceful. I never got a vibe of hostility and I never got the impression that anyone was there to have anything other than a good time. Yeah, there's drugs everywhere. Some of them are bad. But these horror stories are ones that develop through an adult game of telephone. I'll give you an example: A kid takes a bit too much of this or that, goes catatonic and falls over. His or her friends freak out, make a scene. The person is carted away and admitted for an OD.
But once that story goes off the campground, suddenly it becomes five people falling over. And instead of being admitted to the hospital, it's that they die. Then THAT message goes to another person who amplifies it even more. And so on, and so forth.
Look, Bisco has its warts. Yes, if you did a sweep of the campground, you'd find enough drugs to send half of those people away for a few years. But when you bring 20,000 people to a town...to a region...the economic impact is HUGE. Ask any store within 10 miles of ILCC and you'll hear how much of a windfall it is. The problem is, there are people who don't like the idea of a peaceful gathering. There are people who distrust the youth culture and its music; it's propensity for drugging and what not. And there are people who are flat-out cantankerous curmudgeons who simply can't deal with the notion of having some noise and disruption for the weekend to help a town and county make a little much needed scratch.
In NYS people are covered until the age of 29 because we are even more progressive than other states. The new federal legislation allows parents to continue offering insurance coverage to children up to age 26. How does this impact New York?
Federal health reform requires insurers to provide coverage to adult children as dependents on their parents' policy up to their 26th birthday. This provision takes effect in September 2010, but many insurers have opted to implement this coverage extension early.
New York has a law allowing children to stay on their parents' plan until age 29, but under different terms than the federal health reform law. New York Law extends the availability of health insurance coverage to young adults through the age of 29 to assist young adults who do not have access to employer-sponsored health insurance. This law is sometimes referred to as the "Age 29" law, because it allows young adults to continue or obtain coverage under a parent's policy through the age of 29. The law provides two distinct ways in which coverage may be extended: a "young adult option" and a "make available" option. More information on this law is available on the New York State Department of Financial Services website.
it's society's view of 'adult children'.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
They try to make it sound like Woodstock, when in reality the numbers are closer to a sparsely attended event at SPAC.
Take Woodstock as an example though. People freaked out because 2 people died. But if you take ANY CITY with a population of 450,000, certainly more than 2 residents are going to die over the course of 3 days. How many people are in the obituaries of The Gazette on any given day? And that's out of only 60,000 residents.
Bisco is no different. Out of ANY group of 20,000 people, there are going to be a few medical emergencies.
35 at Camp Bisco treated at hospital Monday, July 16, 2012 By John Enger (Contact) Gazette Reporter
DUANESBURG — A total of 35 Camp Bisco attendees were taken to the Ellis Hospital emergency room Thursday through Sunday.
Of those, 12 were admitted, according to hospital spokeswoman Donna Evans, most for drug overdoses, a few for broken bones.
“It was busy at times,” she said, “but manageable.”
The ER’s ability to deal with the numbers was due in part to good planning. According to Evans, they anticipated the rush Bisco would generate, boosting their staff to compensate. Camp Bisco is a large music festival that attracted an estimated tens of thousands of people, although organizers could not provide exact numbers.
While the number of those treated at the hospital seems high, Frank Potter, owner of Indian Lookout Country Club where the camp was held, said all precautions were taken.
7:13 AM Fatal accident on the Thruway By: Web Staff
ALBANY, N.Y. -- One person is dead and another injured following a crash on the Thruway.
It happened around 9:15 pm on Sunday near the eastbound lanes approaching Exit 24.
State police said Alisha Makepeace, 26, and David Melnick, 26, were driving home from the Camp Bisco Music Festival in Mariaville when their truck drifted from the center lane and into the median where it struck a guardrail.
The guiderail penetrated the vehicle, killing Makepeace and injuring Melnick, who was the passenger at the time. Makepeace was from Maine and Melnick is from New Hampshire.
Troopers are awaiting toxicology results in the crash.
DUANESBURG 35 at Camp Bisco treated at hospital BY JOHN ENGER Gazette Reporter
A total of 35 Camp Bisco attendees were taken to the Ellis Hospital emergency room Thursday through Sunday. Of those, 12 were admitted, according to hospital spokeswoman Donna Evans, most for drug overdoses, a few for broken bones. “It was busy at times,” she said, “but manageable.” The ER’s ability to deal with the numbers was due in part to good planning. According to Evans, they anticipated the rush Bisco would generate, boosting their staff to compensate. Camp Bisco is a large music festival that attracted an estimated tens of thousands of people, although organizers could not provide exact numbers. While the number of those treated at the hospital seems high, Frank Potter, owner of Indian Lookout Country Club where the camp was held, said all precautions were taken. “We followed all the rules,” he said. “We had ambulances. We made sure to transport people. It’s all about safety.” Potter hires his own security, so with the exception of investigating the death of a concession worker from an apparent drug overdose Wednesday morning, police were not involved in the event. Duanesburg and Mohawk ambulances were on call. ................>>>>................>>>>............http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01003&AppName=1
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