Hey CICERO....I read and read your posts and for the life of me cannot understand.....you are hell bent on the fact that this country is F*#@d up, and you appear to hate everything about it.......so why are you living here? And that is an honest question...not tyring to start a war. If I was as pi$$ed off at this coutnry as you appear to be, I would be looking to pack my family and move somewhere that my life would be better and far from as stressful.
I guess I would have to ask Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Adams, and George Washington to better understand why I voice my dissent. I guess they didn't just 'pack up and leave either. Same with the 1960's dissenters. The anti war protester, the feminist, and civil rights activist just didn't leave either. They protested, burned flags, burned their draft cards, marched, and some were even shot at Kent St.
So in conclusion, I am not the first to voice my complaints about how this country is F*#@d up. You on lthe other hand is what the Constitution was designed to prevent, totalitarians that will crush any and all dissent by telling you to leave if you don't like how we tell you to live.
You on lthe other hand is what the Constitution was designed to prevent, totalitarians that will crush any and all dissent by telling you to leave if you don't like how we tell you to live.
Labeling me...wow, that is cool, cuz you have no clue who I am or what I believe or how I choose to exist. Sorry for asking a serious question...IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. PS - This is edited version of what I really wanted to say to you...........HAVE A NICE MISERABLE DAY!!!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Labeling me...wow, that is cool, cuz you have no clue who I am or what I believe or how I choose to exist. Sorry for asking a serious question...IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. PS - This is edited version of what I really wanted to say to you...........HAVE A NICE MISERABLE DAY!!!!!
Yeah, a serious question, with the 'if you were me, you would pack up and leave the country'.
I'll bet you there were a few people in Germany in 1939 that didn't like the country they lived in either and the direction the leadership was going. I'm sure some people disagreed with the invasion of Poland and the detainment of Jews. I'm sure when these dissenters spoke to the 'good German's'(sort of like 'good Americans') they were treated the same as I am when I question the indefinate detainment of "terrorist" or assassination of our own citizens, or the NDAA that authorizes military detainment of American citizens. I fully understand how blinding nationalism is. America has been in a perpetual war since 1991 and the good Americans wave their flags a put the yellow ribbons on their cars in full support of our offensive wars.
...and BTW, no need to edit what you really wanted to say, since I really don't care what you have to say. I have no problem reading your opinions. And I won't even suggest you leave the country if I don't agree with them.
Yeah, a serious question, with the 'if you were me, you would pack up and leave the country'.
I'll bet you there were a few people in Germany in 1939 that didn't like the country they lived in either and the direction the leadership was going. I'm sure some people disagreed with the invasion of Poland and the detainment of Jews. I'm sure when these dissenters spoke to the 'good German's'(sort of like 'good Americans') they were treated the same as I am when I question the indefinate detainment of "terrorist" or assassination of our own citizens, or the NDAA that authorizes military detainment of American citizens. I fully understand how blinding nationalism is. America has been in a perpetual war since 1991 and the good Americans wave their flags a put the yellow ribbons on their cars in full support of our offensive wars.
...and BTW, no need to edit what you really wanted to say, since I really don't care what you have to say. I have no problem reading your opinions. And I won't even suggest you leave the country if I don't agree with them.
Joe, I think your line of questioning has been therapeutic for Cicero. He seems a little clearer than usual. He didn't include a reference to "Abortion" or to terrorist "Anwar al-Awlaki".
Keep up the good work!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Joe, I think your line of questioning has been therapeutic for Cicero. He seems a little clearer than usual. He didn't include a reference to "Abortion" or to terrorist "Anwar al-Awlaki".
Keep up the good work!
Can't talk about Awlaki, due process, and assassination without the ultra nationalist calling me a terrorist sympathizer.Debating with you has to be very simple. Democrat good republican bad. Anything beyond that and you start posting thinkprogress cartoons. Your DS did a very good job on you.
Yeah, a serious question, with the 'if you were me, you would pack up and leave the country'.
I'll bet you there were a few people in Germany in 1939 that didn't like the country they lived in either and the direction the leadership was going. I'm sure some people disagreed with the invasion of Poland and the detainment of Jews. I'm sure when these dissenters spoke to the 'good German's'(sort of like 'good Americans') they were treated the same as I am when I question the indefinate detainment of "terrorist" or assassination of our own citizens, or the NDAA that authorizes military detainment of American citizens. I fully understand how blinding nationalism is. America has been in a perpetual war since 1991 and the good Americans wave their flags a put the yellow ribbons on their cars in full support of our offensive wars.
...and BTW, no need to edit what you really wanted to say, since I really don't care what you have to say. I have no problem reading your opinions. And I won't even suggest you leave the country if I don't agree with them.
Didn't tell you to leave Didn't say I would leave Stated it was serious, but you can't even accept that You find negative in everything...sad way to live, but that's your life.....not mine! Real world...try it sometime...it's really a wonderful experience, even with the negatives that exist. There is no pefect world except in your angry mind.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
some people just like to bitchcomplain about everything. Cicero dosen't know WHAT he wants, so he just complains about everything, IMHO.
I don't think it's the country as much as it is the evolution of a couple of generation seeking the road most traveled....which would actually equate to the road that Europe and England blazed.....
I don't get it....BACK TO TYRANNY?....really? the church of england? AGAIN?....I'm not feelin' it?
hell...why don't you folks move back to your ancestors land....no really? the commune exists in Europe/England...
dontcha just love evolution of civilization?
LOL
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Didn't tell you to leave Didn't say I would leave Stated it was serious, but you can't even accept that You find negative in everything...sad way to live, but that's your life.....not mine! Real world...try it sometime...it's really a wonderful experience, even with the negatives that exist. There is no pefect world except in your angry mind.
I agree Joe, Cic seems to make himself miserable... and he likes it that way. He gets annoyed when anyone shows him a brighter path.
Abe Lincoln said: "People are just as happy as they make their minds up to be"
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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