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Box A Rox
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You have no problem, you just lobby everyday on the forum for the government thugs to take some of the wealth from the "rich" and give it to whoever they think is most deserving...and as we know, the most deserving is usually determined by who contributed most to the party in power.  


Cic... Unlike you, I DO believe in government.  It's our responsibility as concerned citizens to protect this
country, to nurture it and if possible, to make it a better place for all Americans.

I once took an oath:
"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against
all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same".

I have not reneged on that oath.  Our Foreign and Domestic enemies... whether they use a gun or
use words against the United States.

Compared to when I was a kid... the Rich pay practically nothing in taxes, while their hold of power has
grown immeasurably.
Right Wing useful idiots like the TeaBaggers have only furthered that injustice.  Today, the wealthy in this
country pay only a fraction of what they paid in my lifetime, while their power to control that process only
grows... (Citizens United).
I hope the USA always has a vibrant successful wealthy group of concerned Americans building industry and
promoting commerce.  But they should not continue to gain in wealth at the expense of the middle class.  
The poor have nothing... they've already stolen what little they had, and cut their benefits.  The middle class
is now the target of the wealthy few who control power in our govt.

All I seek is fairness.  An even playing field whether your rich, poor or anywhere in between.  Where the
government serves all it's citizens, not just the rich and powerful.  You can continue to carry water for
the wealthy and try to secure even lower taxes for them, (even though they are now paying the lowest
taxes in my lifetime).
I'll continue to work so that All Americans are treated fairly.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Our Foreign and Domestic enemies... whether they use a gun or use words against the United States.


Wow!  You may have just out done yourself in your fascist totalitarian rhetoric..."Domestic enemies", "use words against the United State"?  Holy sh*t!  Box has finally gone off the deep end!  Box thinks his Marine Corps oath to defend the Constitution is to defend his beloved government from people exercing free speech speaking against the state.

Box's favorite fascist leader once said:    All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.


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I entered an annual income of $500, and it still told me I was in the top 80% of wealthiest people.
That's less than $10 per week.
Guys with shopping carts collecting bottles probably make double that.
I think I'll ask one what it's like to be rich, and see what kind of reaction I get.


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Wow!  You may have just out done yourself in your fascist totalitarian rhetoric..."Domestic enemies", "use words against the United State"?  Holy sh*t!  Box has finally gone off the deep end!  Box thinks his Marine Corps oath to defend the Constitution is to defend his beloved government from people exercing free speech speaking against the state.
Box's favorite fascist leader once said:    All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.


Cic as I continuously post.... gets his FACTS wrong... once again.

The Oath that I took wasn't to the "Marine Corps" as you post, it didn't even mention the Marine
Corps.  But FACTS are an liquid, ever shifting thing in Cicero's mind.
  When he can't promote his agenda with FACTS... He just invents them!

If Cic and others here don't think that there are "Domestic Terrorists"... Just google Timothy McVeigh and
the Oklahoma City Bombing... There have been many more recent "Domestic Terrorists" than Mc Veigh,
but he was one of the most successful.

Cic has no understanding of Country, or of Community... for Cic... it's all "I got mine, screw everyone else!"


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I entered an annual income of $500, and it still told me I was in the top 80% of wealthiest people.
That's less than $10 per week.
Guys with shopping carts collecting bottles probably make double that.
I think I'll ask one what it's like to be rich, and see what kind of reaction I get.


It kind of makes you appreciate what we DO have in this country... where most of our poor are richer
than many countries middle class.

The Present Conservative thinking is to promote everything they can to lower those numbers for the
middle class until they reach a level with the rest of the world... but to protect the top 1% for
themselves.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The Oath that I took wasn't to the "Marine Corps" as you post, it didn't even mention the Marine  Corps. But FACTS are an liquid, ever shifting thing in Cicero's mind.  When he can't promote his agenda with FACTS... He just invents them!


That's amazing, because the Marine Corps oath is EXACLTY the same as what you posted.  Take a listen.

My facts are always wrong...I love how you preface each response to my posts with that.


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Cic has no understanding of Country, or of Community... for Cic... it's all "I got mine, screw everyone else!"


I understand community; I just believe communities are VOLUNTARY...You on the other hand, believe in a strong central government and a lot of coercion and force is necessary for community to exist.


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That's amazing, because the Marine Corps oath is EXACLTY the same as what you posted.  Take a listen.

My facts are always wrong...I love how you preface each response to my posts with that.


What I posted is EXACTLY the oath these Marines take.  Thanks for posting the entire oath in the video.
As I posted, the oath never mentions the Marine Corps.

I once took an oath:
"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against
all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same".
I have not reneged on that oath.  Our Foreign and Domestic enemies... whether they use a gun or
use words against the United States.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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What I posted is EXACTLY the oath these Marines take.  Thanks for posting the entire oath in the video.
As I posted, the oath never mentions the Marine Corps.

I once took an oath:
"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against
all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same".
I have not reneged on that oath.  Our Foreign and Domestic enemies... whether they use a gun or
use words against the United States.


Sorry, I don't take oaths or pledge allegiances to the people in power of the governments.  The only allegiances are to my family and the only oath I've ever taken is my marriage vows.  I know, I must sound like a radical extremist because my mind isn't warped with blind nationalism.

Box, it's cute how you attempt to jam your ideological beliefs down everybody's throat and frame it as you are fulfilling your silly oath.  




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Sorry, I don't take oaths or pledge allegiances to the people in power of the governments.  The only allegiances are to my family and the only oath I've ever taken is my marriage vows.  I know, I must sound like a radical extremist because my mind isn't warped with blind nationalism.

No Cic... It doesn't sound radical, it just sounds selfish.

Box, it's cute how you attempt to jam your ideological beliefs down everybody's throat and frame it as you are fulfilling your silly oath.  

Read my post...
It was about how "I" feel. No where do I attempt to "jam my views down everybody's throat".
See below:
Cic... Unlike you, I DO believe in government.  It's our responsibility as concerned citizens to protect this
country, to nurture it and if possible, to make it a better place for all Americans.

Compared to when I was a kid... the Rich pay practically nothing in taxes, while their hold of power has
grown immeasurably.
Right Wing useful idiots like the TeaBaggers have only furthered that injustice.  Today, the wealthy in this
country pay only a fraction of what they paid in my lifetime, while their power to control that process only
grows... (Citizens United).
I hope the USA always has a vibrant successful wealthy group of concerned Americans building industry and
promoting commerce.  But they should not continue to gain in wealth at the expense of the middle class.  
The poor have nothing... they've already stolen what little they had, and cut their benefits.  The middle class
is now the target of the wealthy few who control power in our govt.

All I seek is fairness.  An even playing field whether your rich, poor or anywhere in between.  Where the
government serves all it's citizens, not just the rich and powerful.  You can continue to carry water for
the wealthy and try to secure even lower taxes for them, (even though they are now paying the lowest
taxes in my lifetime).
I'll continue to work so that All Americans are treated fairly.


You may call my oath "silly", I'm sure you see it that way.  You seem to be a "Me First" type of
person who is disconnected from the rest of your community or country.
Sad.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Yup! Compared to the rest of the world, on average, Americans are filthy rich.

DID YOU KNOW..?
The world's 225 richest people now have a combined wealth of $1 trillion.
That's equal to the combined annual income of the world's 2.5 billion poorest people.


filthy rich all depends on the value of your dollar and the trust we put into it....folks who talk about the 1%'ers
have an awful lot of faith in the fiat system.....

wealth is having sh!t and actually being able to manage it to grow, feed yourself, employ others(if you wish)

ALOT of folks take the road most traveled and that road was blazed by someone else's where with all to make it...

most lotto winners SUCK at being wealthy...but they sure know how to spend it like they were....

you just can't level the playing field when it comes to person sweat/sacrifice/hard work........

if only....if only....if only...if only.....if only....had this....had that...someone gave me....I won the....blah blah blah


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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