Phew!!! I can quit my job. Somebody else can work to pay for the medical problems that I may develop due to my diet and habits. What a great day in America. The day personal responsibility died and collectivism has been officially instituted.
Smarten up. The US has been full of Socialism for decades.
Collective miltary is Socialism, public schools are Socialism.
It's interesting that when the Rabid Right hears TAX CUTS, they cheer, but they never ask, who gains by a tax cut. They just assume that they do.
A truism: "A tax cut for one group, with out a like spending cut, is a tax increase for everyone not in the group." So, a tax cut for one group, say for veterans, or seniors or Rich People... with out a like spending cut... is a TAX INCREASE FOR EVERYONE NOT IN THAT GROUP!
The righties on this board just assume cutting taxes means their taxes go down... when in reality it often means their taxes increase.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The USA is the worlds largest supplier of Weapons to the world.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Smarten up. The US has been full of Socialism for decades.
Collective miltary is Socialism, public schools are Socialism.
Social Security.
Medicaid.
Every government program is collective Socialism.
Oh, I'm not in disagreement. That is why I laugh when Box blames capitalism and greed for social problems. The USA hasn't seen free market capitalism in over 100 years. It has been managed and centrally planned since the inception of the Federal Reserve.
The Obamacare law just overtly reaffirms American socialism for another generation of Americans.
By upholding the law, millions of Americans can retain the healthcare that they already have without concern. By retaining the Individual Mandate, the financial stability of the health insurance industry is assured for now, and into the future. Through this decision, America finally leaves behind its last-place standing in the industrialized world, as the only country without universal coverage.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
By upholding the law, millions of Americans can retain the healthcare that they already have without concern. By retaining the Individual Mandate, the financial stability of the health insurance industry is assured for now, and into the future. Through this decision, America finally leaves behind its last-place standing in the industrialized world, as the only country without universal coverage.
If only that were true, but we know it won't be. One of the great benefits I get from my Company is just about 100% company paid healthcare....it is self funded, and according to the provisions of the Health care law, my policy will be deemed a Cadillac policy and most likely my company will be forced to change it. It will cost me and my fellow employees more money, its an indirect tax increase no matter how you slice it. I was not given this job, I earned it. I earned it by working and building my resume through 20 years in my field. Now, through Federal legislation, I will be penalized. Lowering Americans to the mean, its the new American way. Sound like Socialisim? Not quite, but its close.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
I think the government shouldn't stop with healthcare. I think it would be advantageous and cheaper for all americans for the government to also be in the homeowner's insurance, car insurance....any insurance business. They should offer it all! The government should compete with the private sector and place mandates that would be cheaper!! Grandparents should also be allowed to cover their grandchildren. As long as 'somebody' pays...who cares who it is...yes? They should also raise taxes at every level to increase medicare, medicaid and unemployment benefits. The criteria for food stamps and energy benefits should also be increased. They should also follow the rule in China, which has worked out quite well for them, to have government issued homes to it's citizens! But unlike China, the u.s. government should put stronger restrictions on greenhouse gases to all industry!
The government should not stop with health care!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I think the government shouldn't stop with healthcare. I think it would be advantageous and cheaper for all americans for the government to also be in the homeowner's insurance, car insurance....any insurance business. They should offer it all! The government should compete with the private sector and place mandates that would be cheaper!! Grandparents should also be allowed to cover their grandchildren. As long as 'somebody' pays...who cares who it is...yes? They should also raise taxes at every level to increase medicare, medicaid and unemployment benefits. The criteria for food stamps and energy benefits should also be increased. They should also follow the rule in China, which has worked out quite well for them, to have government issued homes to it's citizens! But unlike China, the u.s. government should put stronger restrictions on greenhouse gases to all industry!
The government should not stop with health care!
They used to give low interest mortgages.FHA.
Then the corporations forced them to stop, give the loans to them, add some additional interest on it, and then it comes to the average guy. With the interest doubled.
Then the corporations go bankrupt charging twice the interest they are paying.
Oh, I'm not in disagreement. That is why I laugh when Box blames capitalism and greed for social problems. The USA hasn't seen free market capitalism in over 100 years. It has been managed and centrally planned since the inception of the Federal Reserve. The Obamacare law just overtly reaffirms American socialism for another generation of Americans.
Still the health care crap costs roughly the same as 20 stealth bombers.
Even in a Libertarian world, there would still be a need for Socialism.
America actually tolerates a great deal of socialist institutions: the post office, public schools, unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, emergency services and so on. However, no one but the most hard-line libertarians would suggest eliminating them all.
The Swiss come close to having no military. 5% of it's military are professionals. The rest is comprised of the general population who are assigned weapons and keep them at home until and if they are needed.
Compulsory schooling and school taxes are heavily socialized.
As far as the medical crap, we should insure everyone. If the rest of the world can provide it for their citizens, the US certainly should.
I would like to see medicare and medicaid consolidated and just cover everyone. Why do we need redundant administrations?
The big 4 I can live with without having an embolism producing, Republican shitfit.
Medical coverage for all, Social Security, the military and "begrudgingly" also public education.
Making sure everyone is offered an education, is provided health care, is protected from invading forces and has a retirement fund for those who have paid into it, isn't the end of the world.
Many other countries do it and they also include free college.
These are programs I can live with, so I guess that makes me a Socialist Libertarian.
I am against government funding of almost any other program. Like Box said, giving tax money or tax cuts, to a particular group, is in fact, a tax raise on everyone else.
Property taxes should not exist. When you buy property it should be yours forever. What a scam property tax is.
These are programs I can live with, so I guess that makes me a Socialist Libertarian.
Well no, you are just a collectivist, you just are prioritizing what industries should be socialized. Education, medicine, financial planning(Social Security) and package delivery does not need to be socialized. It can be done by the markets.
Many libertarians believe in a funded defensive military to protect from foreign invasion.
Well no, you are just a collectivist, you just are prioritizing what industries should be socialized. Education, medicine, financial planning(Social Security) and package delivery does not need to be socialized. It can be done by the markets.
Many libertarians believe in a funded defensive military to protect from foreign invasion.
1. Social Security - You can't end benefits. You can end enrollment. The people in the system have been promised their retirement.
2. Education - I agree. it can be done free market. However, shouldn't we be able to provide an education comparable to the rest of the world? Don't get me wrong, I would vote education down in a minute, but it would never fly. Plus, I paid for the existing schools already.
3. Mail - That is government control of communications. Private industry should eventually put the federal post offices out of business. Mail is stupid to begin with. Most correspondence could be electronic.
4. Medicine - I can live with everyone having health care. I really would rather it be a single payer system option for those who don't want to buy Blue Shield or other crap. I know a lot of people who are in really bad shape because they never had health care. There is no reason for people to be neglected in this country. We are better than that.
4. Medicine - I can live with everyone having health care. I really would rather it be a single payer system option for those who don't want to buy Blue Shield or other crap. I know a lot of people who are in really bad shape because they never had health care. There is no reason for people to be neglected in this country. We are better than that.
This isn't about everybody having heath care. It is about everybody paying for health insurance. This is about forcing people to have insurance that do not want health care.
Why not have health insurance policies that act like whole life insurace policies?(voluntary of course) The policy can gain cash value as you contribute, and when you die there is a death benefit for the balance never used for health care expenses - instead of betting against yourself every year like a term life insurance policy.
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