because that is only HALF of the whiny conversation....the other half is...those poor poor folk who can't take care of themselves....THEY STILL WON'T
so now it becomes a 'sin tax'....which turns it into a whole other ball of wax.....get it?
then the 'sin tax' will be broken down to
1. 40oz sugary drinks 2. fees by the pound based upon your BMI(or some other mojo stat) 3. vaccination penalties etc etc.... the list is endless.... basic emergent care A RESOUNDING YES!!!!!! the rest is up to you!!!!! it's your body, it's your life, it's your choice...... medical crap is a great scary tool to wield at the hearts and minds of those who see medicine as a god....
Oh yea! It's called the 'slippery slope" and it gets pulled out of the drawer every time there is CHANGE. It doesn't matter what the change... the righties will justify any opposition with the slippery slope.
"If we allow gays to marry, then we'll have to allow humans and possums to marry". It takes a pretty simplistic mind to buy into it, but the Right has no shortage of simplistic minds.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Oh yea! It's called the 'slippery slope" and it gets pulled out of the drawer every time there is CHANGE. It doesn't matter what the change... the righties will justify any opposition with the slippery slope.
"If we allow gays to marry, then we'll have to allow humans and possums to marry". It takes a pretty simplistic mind to buy into it, but the Right has no shortage of simplistic minds.
Obamacare IS the continuation of the "slippery slope". It started in 1965 with the passage of Medicare and Medicaid to take care of the poor and elderly. 45 years later we are mandating health insurance for all American. Nope, no slippery slope, it is what the liberal statist now calls being 'progressive'.
Rick Perry Won't Implement Obamacare The Huffington Post | By Luke Johnson Posted: 07/09/2012 10:44 am Updated: 07/09/2012 2:24 pm
Texas will not expand Medicaid or implement a state health exchange following the Supreme Court's upholding of the constitutionality of Obamacare, Gov. Rick Perry (R) said Monday.
"If anyone was in doubt, we in Texas have no intention to implement so-called state exchanges or to expand Medicaid under Obamacare, I will not be party to socializing healthcare and bankrupting my state in direct contradiction to our Constitution and our founding principles of limited government," Perry said in a statement Monday. He sent a letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announcing his opposition to the law.
Perry joins a growing list of GOP governors who say they won't implement the two provisions, including Nikki Haley of South Carolina, Scott Walker of Wisconsin, Rick Scott of Florida and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana.
The federal government, however, will implement the health insurance exchanges for the states if they don't do so.
The Supreme Court upheld the individual mandate, but struck down the penalty in the law for states to lose their Medicaid funding if they do not participate in the expansion, which covers those with incomes up to 133 percent of the poverty line..........................>>>>.....................>>>>.................http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/09/rick-perry-obamacare_n_1658934.html
How DARE a STATE make it's OWN DECISIONS. The COURT has MANDATED that it is NOT UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Tell them to do as they are told... or maybe this is what the writers of the Constitution wanted??? ... Hmmm.... Makes you think, huh?
Obamacare IS the continuation of the "slippery slope". It started in 1965 with the passage of Medicare and Medicaid to take care of the poor and elderly. 45 years later we are mandating health insurance for all American. Nope, no slippery slope, it is what the liberal statist now calls being 'progressive'.
The Conservative Slippery Slope on taxes.
~In 1965 conservatives complained that the Rich were paying too much in taxes... The top rate was 70% ~In 1975 conservatives complained that the Rich were paying too much in taxes... The top rate was 50% ~In 2011 conservatives complained that the Rich were paying too much in taxes... The top rate was 37.90% (although most actually pay around 17%) ~ and today conservatives complained that the Rich are paying too much in taxes...
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Texas has the highest rate of uninsured in the country, at 25%, or 6.2 million people. Texas also has the worst health care services and delivery in the nation according to the federal Agency for Health Care Research and Quality.
Do the Rich Texans have good health care? Of course. Do the white people have good health care? Most of em. See... We don't need no stinkin' health care!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Texas has the highest rate of uninsured in the country, at 25%, or 6.2 million people. Texas also has the worst health care services and delivery in the nation according to the federal Agency for Health Care Research and Quality.
Do the Rich Texans have good health care? Of course. Do the white people have good health care? Most of em. See... We don't need no stinkin' health care!
Wow, box went class warfare AND racism! Pullin out all the stops aren't you box. If you added a line for Christian you would have had the trifecta!
~In 1965 conservatives complained that the Rich were paying too much in taxes... The top rate was 70% ~In 1975 conservatives complained that the Rich were paying too much in taxes... The top rate was 50% ~In 2011 conservatives complained that the Rich were paying too much in taxes... The top rate was 37.90% (although most actually pay around 17%) ~ and today conservatives complained that the Rich are paying too much in taxes...
I'm not complaining, I just understand the historic reality that regardless how high the tax rate on the "rich" is, the tax revenue doesn't change. You on the other hand do not care about that, you just want to punish those rich bastard for...well...BEING RICH! You admitted yourself that wealthy people can move their money around the world to avoid governments for taking it. Like Mitt Romney
Obamacare Now Estimated to Cost $2.6 Trillion in First Decade 11:29 AM, Jul 11, 2012 • By DANIEL HALPER
The Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee will later today release the following chart, detailing the rising projected cost of President Obama's signature legislation, Obamacare:
The latest estimate, as the chart details, is that Obamacare will cost $2.6 trillion dollars in its first real decade. The bill does not fully go into effect until 2014, therefore the estimate begins with that year.
"President Obama promised a joint session of Congress in 2009 to spend $900 billion over ten years on his health care law: 'Now, add it all up, and the plan that I’m proposing will cost around $900 billion over 10 years.' Adding up all the different spending provisions in the health care law, however, (including closing the Medicare 'donut hole,' implementation costs, and other spending) total gross spending over the FY 2010–19 period is about $1.4 trillion, based on CBO estimates," the Senate Budget Committee Republican staff explains. "And most of the major spending provisions in the law do not even take effect until 2014. Congressional Democrats delayed these provisions in order to show only six years of spending under the plan in the original 10-year budget window (from FY2010-19) used by CBO at the time the law was enacted. Therefore, the original estimate concealed the fact that most of the law’s spending only doesn’t even begin until four years into the 10-year window. A Senate Budget Committee analysis (based on CBO estimates and growth rates) finds that that total spending under the law will amount to at least $2.6 trillion over a true 10-year period (from FY2014–23)—not $900 billion, as President Obama originally promised." http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....t-decade_648413.html
The Supreme Court has blatantly ignored the Constitution [on the Obamacare decision]. I challenge laymen, as well as lawyers, to identify the passage in the Constitution that permits the federal government to institute a tax to penalize or force any American citizen to purchase a product against their will. The Supreme Court has indeed legislated from the bench, creating new federal law that will haunt the American democracy for years to come. Fortunately, there are three branches of government. A usurped body of Congress that stands idly by when the other branches of government ignore the Constitution would be a further insult to our Founding Fathers. Immediate legislation is required to reverse the Supreme Court’s imprudent decision long before it takes root and becomes accepted, established federal law.
House votes to repeal Obamacare The Business Journals by Kent Hoover, Washington Bureau Chief Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 4:42pm EDT
The House voted 244-185 this afternoon to repeal health care reform, underscoring the importance of this issue to Republicans’ hopes of defeating President Barack Obama and winning control of the Senate in November................>>>>................>>>>.................http://www.bizjournals.com/biz.....epeal-obamacare.html
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