The new health care law exempts the president from having to participate in it. Leadership and committee staffers in the House and Senate who wrote the bill are exempted as well. A weasel-worded definition of “staff” includes only the members’ personal staff in the new system; the committee staff that drafted the legislation opted themselves out. Because they were more familiar with the contents of the law than anyone in the country, it says a lot that they carved out their own special loophole. Anyway, the law is intended to affect “ordinary Americans,” according to Vice President Joe Biden (who - being a heartbeat away from the presidency - also is not covered), not Washington insiders. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/23/obamacare-for-everyone-but-obama/
IT makes great Right Wing Propaganda Shadow... but again, as I posted above, it's not true.
Members of Congress are offered insurance through their employer, which in this case is the federal government. They can purchase it through the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan, which is offered to all federal employees. (We've written about this plan previously.) Under the plan, federal workers — and members of Congress — can choose from a variety of insurance plans just as people would in the new health care exchange. There's nothing in the health care bills that exempts Congress from the same requirements as regular citizens.
Q: Does the health care bill specifically exempt members of Congress and their staffs from its provisions? A: No. This twisted claim is based on misrepresentations of the House and Senate bills, neither of which exempts lawmakers.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The new health care law exempts the president from having to participate in it. Leadership and committee staffers in the House and Senate who wrote the bill are exempted as well[color=red][/color]Not all of Congress is exempt but there are quite a few who are. Please note that most of those in Congress who will be exempt are Dems who wrote the bill.
The new health care law exempts the president from having to participate in it. Leadership and committee staffers in the House and Senate who wrote the bill are exempted as well[color=red][/color]Not all of Congress is exempt but there are quite a few who are. Please note that most of those in Congress who will be exempt are Dems who wrote the bill.
Read it for yourself Shadow...
(D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE.- (i) REQUIREMENT.-Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). (ii) DEFINITIONS.-In this section: (I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS.-The term ''Member of Congress'' means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate. (II) CONGRESSIONAL STAFF.-The term ''congressional staff'' means all full-time and parttime employees employed by the official office of a Member of Congress, whether in Washington, DC or outside of Washington, DC.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
That is not a question for you to ask the rulers. There must be a very good reason for it. Probably to protect us from terrorists, or 9/11, or national security, take your pick.
Except, I am old-fashioned enough to believe that WE THE PEOPLE are the rulers and the Congress and the President should WORK FOR US. Ditto for our elected officials at the state and local levels as well.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
Obama, Reid, Pelosi and their staff are all exempt from ObamaCare reforms Obama has said for weeks now that the Republicans have been lying and using scare tactics to turn the American people against ObamaCare and that once it’s passed and the American people see what’s in it then they’ll be just thrilled with it. Well, if it’s that good, then Obama will enthusiastically participate, right?
Nope. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi wrote the bills that Barack Obama signed today, so they know exactly what’s in them. And they made sure to exempt themselves, the leadership from both the House and Senate, their staffs, and the entire Administration from having to participate in it. That should tell you everything you need to know about how wonderful ObamaCare really is. Congressman John Carter, who is part of the House leadership, so he and his staff would be included in the waiver, had a few choice things to say about the leadership’s exemption from this history-making piece of legislation. He sent out this press release today:
In what will likely be recorded as the greatest political hypocrisy in American history, President Barack Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid have exempted the entire Administration along with House and Senate leadership and committee staff members from participation in their new federal healthcare gulags, while forcing rank-and-file House and Senate staff out of the Federal Employees Health Benefit Plan (FEHBP) and into the restricted federal health insurance pools, along with the rest of working Americans.http://www.exposeharry.com/obama-reid-pelosi-and-their-staff-are-all-exempt-from-obamacare-reforms/
And let's remember that the unions and select corporations/businesses are also exempt. that was part of the 'sweet deal'.................kinda like the 'cornhusker' deal!
All votes are bought and paid for!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Obama, Reid, Pelosi and their staff are all exempt from ObamaCare reforms Obama has said for weeks now that the Republicans have been lying and using scare tactics to turn the American people against ObamaCare and that once it’s passed and the American people see what’s in it then they’ll be just thrilled with it. Well, if it’s that good, then Obama will enthusiastically participate, right?
Nope. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi wrote the bills that Barack Obama signed today, so they know exactly what’s in them. And they made sure to exempt themselves, the leadership from both the House and Senate, their staffs, and the entire Administration from having to participate in it. That should tell you everything you need to know about how wonderful ObamaCare really is. Congressman John Carter, who is part of the House leadership, so he and his staff would be included in the waiver, had a few choice things to say about the leadership’s exemption from this history-making piece of legislation. He sent out this press release today:
In what will likely be recorded as the greatest political hypocrisy in American history, President Barack Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid have exempted the entire Administration along with House and Senate leadership and committee staff members from participation in their new federal healthcare gulags, while forcing rank-and-file House and Senate staff out of the Federal Employees Health Benefit Plan (FEHBP) and into the restricted federal health insurance pools, along with the rest of working Americans.http://www.exposeharry.com/obama-reid-pelosi-and-their-staff-are-all-exempt-from-obamacare-reforms/
So there you have it!
On Shadows side: ~ A political rant from some site called: (get this ) ExposeHarry.Com Reid's Dirty Laundry Revealed Sounds so 'official'... (of course it's a Right Wing Blog) I've tried to identify it's author, but this blog is anonymous... (Who would believe such crap?) I did manage to tack down the source of "ExposeHarry.Com", it's a Right Wing Political Propaganda Site... A project of Legacy Committee PAC and Republican Majority Campaign PAC ·
And on my side: The Health Care Reform Act The text of the actual Health Care Reform Law quoted verbatim
So you can believe Shadow's "Reid's Dirty Laundry Revealed"... Or the actual words from the Health Care Act.
Totally amazing!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If you think that any of the MSM is going to tell you the truth before the SHTF please don't hold your breath. If you think Obama and his cohorts will have the same type of health-care as we the people I would be willing to put a little money on it that they won't. There are 2700 pages in the health-care bill and there are things hidden in many of them and you only quote 1 page.
If you think that any of the MSM is going to tell you the truth before the SHTF please don't hold your breath. If you think Obama and his cohorts will have the same type of health-care as we the people I would be willing to put a little money on it that they won't. There are 2700 pages in the health-care bill and there are things hidden in many of them and you only quote 1 page.
YUP! I quoted one page from the actual law... and you quoted one page from a Right Wing Political blog run by a Republican Party PAC.
I'll stick with the LAW instead of your GOP PAC.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
YUP! I quoted one page from the actual law... and you quoted one page from a Right Wing Political blog run by a Republican Party PAC.
I'll stick with the LAW instead of your GOP PAC.
Your on a role today box!!! There are many flaws with this law, but lets actually discuss what they are and possible solutions to fix them, rather than making up issues for political purposes.
Your on a role today box!!! There are many flaws with this law, but lets actually discuss what they are and possible solutions to fix them, rather than making up issues for political purposes.
Can you believe it? To discuss politics here, you still need to put up with "Obama is a Muslim and born in Kenya.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Libertarians don’t like it, but health care act good
I love optimists, even very conservative libertarian optimists like George Will — if they are as brilliant as he. In his July 1 Gazette column, Will claimed that “Conservatives won a substantial victory” when the Roberts Court upheld the constitutionality of the Obama health care act. It reminds me of what a Greek King, Pyrrhus, who fought and “won” a huge, costly battle with the Romans said: “One more such victory and we are undone.” George Will, however, has a different view. He argues that in rejecting the Obama administration’s major rationale for the bill, while upholding it on other grounds, the court has advanced the cause of state’s rights and put a bridle on the federal government. State’s rights are often used by conservative libertarians for wishing government to do nothing. Ludwig von Mises, a now-dead Austrian economist and a conservative-libertarian icon, argued most passionately for this view. “It is important to remember,” he wrote, “that government interference always means either violent action or the threat of such action. Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policeman, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards and hangmen. The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing and imprisoning.” I do not at all believe that. I do believe that government must be free, open, responsive, restrained and smart. The “smart” includes being fi nancially prudent. And I believe that the Obama health care act is a piece of wise and compassionate legislation — and will be so regarded by future generations.
Health care passed, but poor still can’t afford it
Re June 29 editorial: “Roberts rules and health law lives,” I have to wonder what the Democrats have on Roberts for him to do this. I did not vote for Obama because he ran claiming to oppose the “mandate” (really a “woman date” because the largest segment of the working poor is single mothers who by the way are the largest segment of the homeless population, too) but I did not believe him. You know there is a really good study in Massachusetts — (http://masscare. org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/ masshealthreforminpracticefinal.pdf) it talks about how the similar “Romneycare” has closed charity hospitals, meaning that, sure, you might get a “free” checkup but you will have no place to go for follow-up care. But mostly I (with a take-home pay of about $1,300 a month), and probably the rest of the 1 percent this new tax is aimed at — the 1 percent who are supposedly the problem/saviors of health-insurance costs — do not have 2 to 3 percent for a fine or 8.5 percent for insurance. And insurance is what we all would like, especially for some of those expensive tests and procedures that are really driving up costs.
Libertarians don’t like it, but health care act good ARNOLD B. RITTERBAND, M.D. Niskayuna
The Gazette didn't disclose in this letter to the editor that Mr. Ritterband is the Co-Medical Director of the Schenectady Free Clinic.
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Bloomberg’s plan won’t kill anyone, but supersized sodas do
Columnist John McLoughlin took a jocular swipe at New York City Mayor Bloomberg [June 8 Gazette]. He joined a shadowy business group that recently mocked the mayor as a “nanny” politician. Mr. McLoughlin also thought the mayor was laughable and behaving like a nanny for attempting to restrict sugared soft drinks to no more than 16 ounces per cup in city restaurants. Moreover, McLoughlin did not admire Bloomberg for having already “banned smoking, trans fats, salt, sugary soda in schools and excessive smiling north of 59th street.” I suppose McLoughlin also thinks the mayor, whom he described as short and having a whiny sing-song-y voice, also behaved like a nanny when he banned smoking in all public places in New York City. I will do Mr. McLoughlin the courtesy of taking him seriously. There is excellent evidence that obesity is a high-risk factor for a variety of illnesses, including diabetes and hypertension, which kill people earlier than they ought to die, and seriously impairs the health of many others. There is also plenty of evidence that consumption of an excessive number of calories is related to obesity. There is even evidence that the consumption of supersized sweet drinks contributes importantly to both. What Mayor Bloomberg has done is take a small but signifi cant, courageous step to protect the public’s health.
ARNOLD RITTERBAND, MD Niskayuna The writer is co-medical director of the Schenectady Free Clinic.
People should learn not to be persuaded by a title like MD. Just because somebody is an MD doesn't mean their opinions are any more valuable than yours, or that they have your interests at heart.
Nothing I hate more than misleading advertising. It isn't a "free" clinic. It is a clinic that provides people services and gets paid by somebody else. Whether it is the generous donors or the extorted tax money. But there is one thing I actually did learn in public school, there is NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.
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