blindly follow authority or ELSE

Mike

I know you aren't talking to be but No to all those answers.  Judge them individually andfairly.  Support them when right and when they break the law - they should get what any private citizen would get.

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Mike

I know you aren't talking to be but No to all those answers.  Judge them individually andfairly.  Support them when right and when they break the law - they should get what any private citizen would get.

I support them, when they're doing their jobs the way they should.  As for "breaking the law" - no.  I, and I think many of us, hold officers to a Higher Standard.  There shouldn't be any question.

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Mike

I know you aren't talking to be but No to all those answers.  Judge them individually andfairly.  Support them when right and when they break the law - they should get what any private citizen would get.

Let's hear Glryinthhighest say what you just said.   I can agree with you, but while judged individually, the high percentage of those that do the misdeeds as totally unacceptable to the taxpayers of the city.   Also, it would be one thing if some officers did things totally individually, and I know this goes back in time a bit, but come on, that egg throwing incident by a group of cops on a bus after some party, that was simply not an act by an individual officer, that was done willfully and deliberately by the union brothers which were not on duty at the time, they did TOGETHER as a GROUP.   Of course the top management, I would think and would hope, did not sanction such actions, just remember how when one officer gets in trouble, virtually the WHOLE GROUP supports him/her.   Heck, in the city the police expected the taxpayers to pay for defense of cops brutalizing private citizens, defense of cops involved with drugs, etc.   When will even one cop go public on the news media and heavily criticize a fellow officer for some major misdeed, and when will even on coop go public on the news media and criticize the union for standing behind a cop who beats someone, or steals evidence, etc?   I know this is not local, but did any rank and file cop on that police force in LosAngeles every come out and criticize those cops that beat up Rodney King?   It's that code of silence.

It's the combination of the high percentage of police and their misdeeds in the city combined with the fellow officers refusal to criticize the misdeeds of their co-workers.

When DV posts under the Glry name and writes comments like he did, he won't even acknowledge the long long long list of major misdeeds, he pretends they never happened.



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higher standard

no union

fired at will

The entire system needs to be revamped.
I'm not condoning the behavior of bad cops....that's not my point here.

However.....these cops arrest the scum....sometimes over and over again....cause when the scum are arrested....the weak judges just let them all back on the streets again!!

The entire city is a disaster and those running, serving and supposedly protecting it are deplorable at best.

The city leaders invite the scum in with the lucrative welfare package....the scum commit crimes.....the scum is arrested......the judges let'm back out!!!

It is just one big dysfunctional corrupt circle.

MT agree - more than fair.  

Mike - egg incident was mishandled.  

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Mike

I know you aren't talking to be but No to all those answers.  Judge them individually andfairly.  Support them when right and when they break the law - they should get what any private citizen would get.

So visitor do you think the officers who were recently (in the past 5 years) have been accused of breaking the law were treated individually and fairly?

Do you think it is reasonable that the cop who allegedly beat his girlfriend was on paid leave for almost a year and a half?

Do you think that Schenectady Police should police Schenectady Police.....leading to convienient failures in procedures that allow the drunk cop who ran into the tree at Wendell and Rugby to get out of trouble?

These cops are supposed to be roll models.  There failure to follow the law leads to increases in crime.  They know the law, they know the loopholes.   The penaltys for cops who break the law should be more harsh than that of the private citizen in my mind.  

Taking it Back

The procedural issue is due to PERB and contracual language.  On both sides, termination proceedings should be resolved - within 90 days at the latest. I won't defend that.

The DWI issue, officers have to remember that when they are dealing with someone with a legal background (e.g., attorneys, police, etc.) they have to treat them as they are civilians.  the officer knows his rights, but that doesn't matter - they are entitled to same process.

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the officer knows his rights, but that doesn't matter - they are entitled to same process.

.............WITH PAY!!

bumblethru

See my comments above - system has to be revised to make things go faster.

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Taking it Back

The procedural issue is due to PERB and contracual language.  On both sides, termination proceedings should be resolved - within 90 days at the latest. I won't defend that.

The DWI issue, officers have to remember that when they are dealing with someone with a legal background (e.g., attorneys, police, etc.) they have to treat them as they are civilians.  the officer knows his rights, but that doesn't matter - they are entitled to same process.

Wasnt it a supervisor that went to this officers home to arrest him?  Didnt the supervisor testify that the cop didnt appear intoxicated?  but the cop went to the station anyways......he didnt appear intoxicated yet blew a pretty high level at the station hours later.....how did he explain the banged up car in his driveway.  someone stole it drove it around, wrecked it and then brought it back......excellent investigative work....im...this cop was lucky to crash within the city limits......where his own could take care of him.

Anyone know who the "arresting" officer was?

excellent roll models

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Wasnt it a supervisor that went to this officers home to arrest him?  Didnt the supervisor testify that the cop didnt appear intoxicated?  but the cop went to the station anyways......he didnt appear intoxicated yet blew a pretty high level at the station hours later.....how did he explain the banged up car in his driveway.  someone stole it drove it around, wrecked it and then brought it back......excellent investigative work....im...this cop was lucky to crash within the city limits......where his own could take care of him.

Anyone know who the "arresting" officer was?

excellent roll models

Wasn't it the ENTIRE police force where NOBODY knew nuthin about Curtis' drug addiction???????? I'm sure those officers who 'knew nuthin' are still on the force.....yes?

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Mike

I know you aren't talking to be but No to all those answers.  Judge them individually andfairly.  Support them when right and when they break the law - they should get what any private citizen would get.

that would be NO PENSION