If electric charging stations were economically viable/profitable --- how come Stewart's, Sunoco, Mobil et al. are not rushing to add them to their stations? And when they do become viable and profitable -- let the private sector build them with their own money.
Besides, I thought they were just arguing a few months ago that the city owned too many cars and that the city had no money so they had to try to resort to mugging ... I mean taxing ... churches and non-profits to raise revenue. So now the city seems to have the money to buy MORE cars .. and MORE EXPENSIVE cars at that .. and pay for additional infrastructure to maintain those cars.
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If electric charging stations were economically viable/profitable --- how come Stewart's, Sunoco, Mobil et al. are not rushing to add them to their stations? And when they do become viable and profitable -- let the private sector build them with their own money.
Besides, I thought they were just arguing a few months ago that the city owned too many cars and that the city had no money so they had to try to resort to mugging ... I mean taxing ... churches and non-profits to raise revenue. So now the city seems to have the money to buy MORE cars .. and MORE EXPENSIVE cars at that .. and pay for additional infrastructure to maintain those cars.
Did someone hijack your account? Nah, becuase I know its you due to the post being mostly dumb sttaments. Stewarts, Mobile and Sunoco dont add them to their stations because they would tie up parking spaces for the most part of a day. Only Schenectady would want to tie up parking spaces for a whole day to give the appearance that people are downtown. Only in Schenectady would they allow City vehicles to park in front of and limit the revenue generating potential of a parking meter.
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Price chopper is already installing them. And I agree....let the private sector test the waters to see if there will be a return on their investment. Use private profits....not taxpayer's money. by the way....what's the charge to hook up to one of these things?
JUNE 12, 2012 11:46 PM • SCOTT DONNELLY --SDONNELLY@POSTSTAR.COM QUEENSBURY -- It may be a while before Nancy Wilson can drive across the state without burning any gasoline. Wilson was among the first motorists in the Northeast to buy the Chevy Volt, a plug-in hybrid vehicle, shortly after it became commercially available more than a year ago. She has been singing its praises ever since, but she has also been waiting for some company. “I hate to burn a speck of gas,” she said Monday, after owning her Volt for about 15 months, 9,500 miles and four tanks of gasoline. “I’d like to see more on the road, absolutely.” Last week, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced a $4.4 million effort to install more than 325 new electric vehicle charging stations statewide. The program, administered by the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority, channels federal and state resources to 10 organizations, including businesses and municipalities, to help set up charging stations. Those participating include energy companies, the New York Port Authority, the city of Rochester and the Golub Corp., which owns the Price Chopper chain of supermarkets. The program won’t result in electric vehicle charging stations in Warren, Washington, Saratoga, Essex or Hamilton counties. But it is aimed at spurring proliferation of the stations on a scale that would popularize plug-in electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles. Cuomo, in announcing the program, said transportation accounts for about 40 percent of the state’s greenhouse gas emissions and about 75 percent of the state’s oil consumption. Electric vehicles use no gasoline and produce no emissions, while plug-in hybrid vehicles like the Volt don’t use gasoline until their batteries are depleted. Then, a gasoline-powered generator engages to charge the batteries and keep the electric motor going.
Mona Golub, spokeswoman for the Golub Corp., said Monday the new Price Chopper store at Division Street and Railroad Place in Saratoga Springs has three electric vehicle charging pedestals. But the company doesn’t plan to install any new charging pedestals in the Glens Falls area through the NYSERDA-run program. Five new stations, which will include canopy-covered charging pedestals, will be installed at Price Chopper locations in metropolitan areas, with the first being set up in Niskayuna, Golub said. “It’s our intent to put together a network that would cross the state,” Golub said. She added most Price Choppers are located in shopping and restaurant plazas where electric vehicle owners are likely to spend an hour or two.
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She added most Price Choppers are located in shopping and restaurant plazas where electric vehicle owners are likely to spend an hour or two.
I guess Mona Golub has never tried to go shopping at a Price Chopper. After all, who goes and does their shopping and DOESN'T spend an hour or two trying to find everything in their mammoth-sized stores?
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Price chopper is already installing them. And I agree....let the private sector test the waters to see if there will be a return on their investment. Use private profits....not taxpayer's money. by the way....what's the charge to hook up to one of these things?
Shop Rite installed 1 station at its Niskayuna store - none at the new Albany store. I believe that Price Chopper is only installing them at 1 newly proposed store or existing store that is being renovated. So the private sector is barely "putting its foot in the water" to test these.
I agree that private funds should be used to fund these types of projects --- and as to the city purchasing new - more expensive - all electric vehicles ... they need to consider what the "break even point" is. It sounds nice on paper to "go green" but my guess is that the cost to the city to build the charging station and buy new cars will never be recouped in actual savings.
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It sounds nice on paper to "go green" but my guess is that the cost to the city to build the charging station and buy new cars will never be recouped in actual savings.
I'll give you this, and it's great to try to save money by going green. The only issue is if you're trying to save the world from carbon emissions, which causes more, the burning of "fossil fuels" in gasoline or the smoke pouring out of the stacks of the electricity plants that are burning coal to produce the electricity to power your "green" car?
I'll give you this, and it's great to try to save money by going green. The only issue is if you're trying to save the world from carbon emissions, which causes more, the burning of "fossil fuels" in gasoline or the smoke pouring out of the stacks of the electricity plants that are burning coal to produce the electricity to power your "green" car?
That is an excellent point.
Similarly, there is a huge push towards windmills but they actually use a good chunk of the energy produced to be turned -- in order to catch the wind. Union College has some windmills down by the old Ramada Inn which by their design do not need to be turned and thus avoid that problem.
Further, I have often wondered why the US doesn't communicate more with its European counterparts (such as in Scandinavia and Germany about energy technology. They are ahead of us in many ways -- one example is HOW they build new houses and other buildings. It is my understanding that in Scandinavia they use 1/3rd of the energy to heat their homes in winter due to their different design standards -- even though their winters are colder than ours. I have also read that our Energy Star and similar standards are far less energy efficient than standards that have been employed in Europe for a number of years.
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Here's a question I've been trying to figure out. How long do you think it's going to be until places that have these "pumps" for electric cars start charging for them? I mean, if you have these there and the company is using additional electricity and the demand starts to go up, do they put a credit card slide on the thing? Do they give it to you for free and start charging higher prices for items off of the shelves? I mean, the electricity at these stations isn't free, supplied by the good graces of National Grid, right?
Similarly, there is a huge push towards windmills but they actually use a good chunk of the energy produced to be turned -- in order to catch the wind. Union College has some windmills down by the old Ramada Inn which by their design do not need to be turned and thus avoid that problem.
Further, I have often wondered why the US doesn't communicate more with its European counterparts (such as in Scandinavia and Germany about energy technology. They are ahead of us in many ways -- one example is HOW they build new houses and other buildings. It is my understanding that in Scandinavia they use 1/3rd of the energy to heat their homes in winter due to their different design standards -- even though their winters are colder than ours. I have also read that our Energy Star and similar standards are far less energy efficient than standards that have been employed in Europe for a number of years.
And the Euro is doing real well lately. You werent the smartest 3rd grader but you were the only one with a drivers liscence.
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Taken from the article "He’d like to buy chargers that operate as parking meters so they would be useful even when no one is charging a car. And, he said, the chargers would give Schenectady a “cachet.” “[It would] show that we’re green,” he said.
Taken from the article "He’d like to buy chargers that operate as parking meters so they would be useful even when no one is charging a car. And, he said, the chargers would give Schenectady a “cachet.” “[It would] show that we’re green,” he said.
Sorry, must have glossed over that part. Should have known that if there were a fee, it wouldn't be the private businesses that would see the wonderful idea of charging for it first (at least blatantly by asking for a CC).
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I expect that in the near future -- Green industry will be flocking to our City and County -- thereby vindicating the myriad efforts that the wonderful Metroplex has engaged in. Having a Green cachet only makes sense IF these chargers can be had with grant money that will save the taxpayers from having to foot the bill for them. Although I personally believe that the private sector should be doing this -- and as some have pointed out a few large market chains have added them -- in this instance and IF the grant money is there then I am all for the Mayor pursuing this along with a host of Green initiatives that will go hand-in-hand WITH it.
I DO NOT totally agree with DemocraticVoiceofReason on this and I am OBVIOUSLY not him or any other poster.
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I DO NOT totally agree with DemocraticVoiceofReason on this and I am OBVIOUSLY not him or any other poster.
It's easy for you to type two different points of view. You are SO VERY DUMB to even remotely think that one person posting under two names can't make comments that have opposing views.
so VERY DUMB
So, have you got any proof yet that things are better in the city? Have you got any proof yet that spending tax money on downtown has increaed the tax base in the city? Has it lowered taxes--uh ON THE HOMEOWNER? Has the wild spending on downtown resulted in homes increasing in value? Is it causing people to flock to the city in droves to buy a house?
Have you got the details on how many houses have sold yet?
Well?
Of course, just like when you post under the DV name, you will NOT provide answers to those questions ---because you can't provide any evidence!
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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