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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-kamikaze-drone-20120611,0,3893056.story

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Pentagon to soon deploy pint-sized but lethal Switchblade drones
The drones, which U.S. officials hope will help reduce civilian casualties in war zones, pack tiny explosive warheads that can destroy targets with pinpoint accuracy.
By W.J. Hennigan, Los Angeles Times



June 11, 2012, 5:00 a.m.
Seeking to reduce civilian casualties and collateral damage, the Pentagon will soon deploy a new generation of drones the size of model planes, packing tiny explosive warheads that can be delivered with pinpoint accuracy.

Errant drone strikes have been blamed for killing and injuring scores of civilians throughout Pakistan and Afghanistan, giving the U.S. government a black eye as it targets elusive terrorist groups. The Predator and Reaper drones deployed in these regions typically carry 100-pound laser-guided Hellfire missiles or 500-pound GPS-guided smart bombs that can reduce buildings to smoldering rubble.

The new Switchblade drone, by comparison, weighs less than 6 pounds and can take out a sniper on a rooftop without blasting the building to bits. It also enables soldiers in the field to identify and destroy targets much more quickly by eliminating the need to call in a strike from large drones that may be hundreds of miles away.

"This is a precision strike weapon that causes as minimal collateral damage as possible," said William I. Nichols, who led the Army's testing effort of the Switchblades at Redstone Arsenal near Huntsville, Ala.

The 2-foot-long Switchblade is so named because its wings fold into the fuselage for transport and spring out after launch. It is designed to fit into a soldier's rucksack and is fired from a mortar-like tube. Once airborne, it begins sending back live video and GPS coordinates to a hand-held control set clutched by the soldier who launched it.

When soldiers identify and lock on a target, they send a command for the drone to nose-dive into it and detonate on impact. Because of the way it operates, the Switchblade has been dubbed the "kamikaze drone."

The Obama administration, notably the CIA, has long been lambasted by critics for its use of combat drones and carelessly killing civilians in targeted strikes in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and Somalia. In 2010, a United Nations official said the CIA in Pakistan had made the United States "the most prolific user of targeted killings" in the world.

In recent weeks, White House spokesman Jay Carney was asked about the issue at a recent news briefing, and he said the Obama administration is committed to reducing civilian casualties.

Although Carney did not mention the Switchblade specifically, he said "we have at our disposal tools that make avoidance of civilian casualties much easier, and tools that make precision targeting possible in ways that have never existed in the past."

The Switchblade drone appears to be an improvement as an alternative to traditional drone strikes, in terms of minimizing civilian harm, but it also raises new concerns, said Naureen Shah, associate director of the Counterterrorism and Human Rights Project at Columbia Law School.

She pointed out that when a drone strike is being considered there are teams of lawyers, analysts and military personnel looking at the data to determine whether lethal force is necessary. But the Switchblade could shorten that "kill chain."

"It delegates full responsibility to a lower-level soldier on the ground," she said. "That delegation is worrisome. It's a situation that could end up in more mistakes being made."

Arms-control advocates also have concerns. As these small robotic weapons proliferate, they worry about what could happen if the drones end up in the hands of terrorists or other hostile forces.

The Switchblade "is symptomatic of a larger problem thatU.S. militaryand aerospace companies are generating, which is producing various more exotic designs," said Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Assn. "This technology is not always going to be in the sole possession of the U.S. and its allies. We need to think about the rules of the road for when and how these should be used so we can mitigate against unintended consequences."

The Switchblade is assembled in Simi Valley by AeroVironment Inc., the Pentagon's top supplier of small drones, which include the Raven, Wasp and Puma. More than 50 Switchblades will be sent to the war zone in Afghanistan this summer under a $10.1-million contract, which also includes the cost of repairs, spare parts, training and other expenses. Officials would not provide details about where the weapons would be used, how many were ordered and precisely when they would be deployed.

AeroVironment, based in Monrovia, developed the weapon on its own, thinking the military could use a lethal drone that could be made cheaply and deployed quickly by soldiers in the field, said company spokesman Steven Gitlin.

"It's not inexpensive to task an Apache helicopter or F-16 fighter jet from a base to take out an [improvised explosive device] team when you consider fuel, people, logistics support, etc.," he said.

About a dozen Switchblades were tested last year by special operations units in Afghanistan, according to Army officials, who said the drone proved effective.

The Army is considering buying $100 million worth of the drones in a few years under a program called the Lethal Miniature Aerial Munition System, Nichols said. The Air Force and the Marine Corps have also expressed interest in the technology.

AeroVironment is not the only company pursuing small, lethal drones. Textron Defense Systems is also working on a small kamikaze-style drone. Named the BattleHawk Squad-Level Loitering Munition, the drone is being tested at an Army facility in New Mexico.

Peter W. Singer, a fellow at the Brookings Institution and author of "Wired for War," a book about robotic warfare, said the Switchblade's entry into the war zone is typical of today's weapons procurement path. Defense contractors, he said, are on their own developing smaller and cheaper but powerful high-tech weapons vital to waging guerrilla-type warfare in the 21st century, and they are finding success.

"This weapon system is the first of its kind," he said. "If it works, there's little doubt others will follow."

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AP Exclusive: Al-Qaida trains Norwegian to attack

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STOCKHOLM (AP) -- A Norwegian man has received terrorist training from al-Qaida's offshoot
in Yemen and is awaiting orders to carry out an attack on the West, officials from three European
security agencies told The Associated Press on Monday.

Western intelligence officials have long feared such a scenario - a convert to Islam who is trained in
terrorist methods and can blend in easily in Europe and the United States, traveling without visa
restrictions.

Officials from three European security agencies confirmed Monday the man is "operational," meaning
he has completed his training and is about to receive a target.


Sounds like a prime candidate to be visited by a US Drone.  
(can you imagine... there are some on this board who would rather wait until this AlQaeda Terrorist actually
kills a few dozen innocent Europeans or Americans before targeting this assassin)

AP
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s.....=2012-06-25-15-26-38


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The threat is EVERYWHERE!!!  The terrorists are white they are black, they are brown, they are red, they are yellow, they are European, they are Asian, they are African, they are American, they are Australian.  

Everyday in America is like one of the Die Hard movies.  Now we must worry about Hans Grubber.

We need to allow the "authorities" to kill, or detain WHOEVER they want without having due process, warrants, or evidence

I know there are some on this board that would rather scrap the rule of law and due process, and kill or detain anybody the president determines to be a threat without review.  Checks and balances is an antiquated system in the new America of perpetual undeclared wars whose enemy is defined by an emotion(terror).


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The threat is EVERYWHERE!!!  The terrorists are white they are black, they are brown, they are red, they are yellow, they are European, they are Asian, they are African, they are American, they are Australian.  

Everyday in America is like one of the Die Hard movies.  Now we must worry about Hans Grubber.

We need to allow the "authorities" to kill, or detain WHOEVER they want without having due process, warrants, or evidence

I know there are some on this board that would rather scrap the rule of law and due process, and kill or detain anybody the president determines to be a threat without review.  Checks and balances is an antiquated system in the new America of perpetual undeclared wars whose enemy is defined by an emotion(terror).


When the Sept 11th  terrorists were in the air over NYC & DC,  on final approach to their targets, Cicero
wanted to attempt a dangerous "air to air" transfer so that Cicero could personally read the AlQaeda
Terrorists their "rights" (rule of law) before they crashed their planes into the WTC and the Pentagon.  



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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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When the Sept 11th  terrorists were in the air over NYC & DC,  on final approach to their targets, Cicero
wanted to attempt a dangerous "air to air" transfer so that Cicero could personally read the AlQaeda
Terrorists their "rights" (rule of law) before they crashed their planes into the WTC and the Pentagon.


LOL!

Yeah, ya got me...Air to air transfer...lol!!

Nah...I would have drone attacked them while they were parked on the runway.  Then I would have locked up and thrown away the key for anybody that may have had casual contact with the "terrorist".  Then on September 12th, after I had just killed 246 Americans sitting on a plane, I would have explained to the American people that those 246 dead Americans were a necessary collateral damage to save the 3000 that could have died in an event that had not yet happened - but it could happen.


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Nah...I would have drone attacked them while they were parked on the runway.  Then I would have locked up and thrown away the key for anybody that may have had casual contact with the "terrorist".  Then on September 12th, after I had just killed 246 Americans sitting on a plane, I would have explained to the American people that those 246 dead Americans were a necessary collateral damage to save the 3000 that could have died in an event that had not yet happened - but it could happen.


OR


You could have sent a drone his way while he was finishing his training in Yemen.
One dead terrorist.



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You could have sent a drone his way while he was finishing his training in Yemen.  One dead terrorist.


OR

...bomb an aspirin factory in Sudan killing an unknown number of innocent people.  Non-Americans though, so no real worth to those lives.


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Jimmy Carter attacks Barack Obama over assassinations and drone attacks
DAVID USBORNE    WEDNESDAY 27 JUNE 2012
  
Former president Jimmy Carter has blasted the United States for anti-terror strategies such as targeting individuals for assassination and using unmanned drones to bomb suspected targets, saying they directly flout the basic tenets of universal human rights and foment anti-US sentiment.

In an article written for the New York Times headlined "A Cruel and Unusual Record", Mr Carter, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002 for his work trying to resolve conflicts around the globe, suggested that the US is in violation of 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It is a rare attack by a former commander-in-chief on a sitting President – especially of the same party..............................>>>>......................>>>>.....................http://www.independent.co.uk/n.....attacks-7888925.html
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DHS Prepares for Civil Unrest as Obama Poised to Destroy 2nd Amendment
Susanne Posel
Infowars.com
July 28, 2012

Surveillance drones have a new mission. According to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) they will be used for “public safety”. Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the DHS, told a House Committee meeting on Homeland Security that the more than 30,000 drones that will be deployed into American skies are just arbitrarily watching out for US citizens.
Napolitano stated : “With respect to Science and Technology, that directorate, we do have a funded project, I think it’s in California, looking at drones that could be utilized to give us situational awareness in a large public safety [matter] or disaster, such as a forest fire, and how they could give us better information.”
Secretly, DHS have been taking bid for contractors who can install “aerial remote sensing” which uses light detection and ranging (LIDAR) that would be part of the unmanned drone missions within domestic US territory.........................>>>>......................>>>>............................http://www.infowars.com/dhs-prepares-for-civil-unrest-as-obama-poised-to-destroy-2nd-amendment/
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Democrat drafts drone privacy bill
By Brendan Sasso      - 08/01/12 01:50 PM ET
    
Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.) released a draft bill on Wednesday that would require drone operators to meet certain privacy standards.

The bill would require the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to consider privacy issues in its rule-making process for granting licenses to commercial drone operators. The bill would also require the drone operators to disclose the kinds of data they plan to collect and how they plan to use it.

Police are already allowed to fly drones in American airspace, and the FAA is developing rules to grant licenses to civilian operators

“Drones are already flying in U.S. airspace — with thousands more to come — but with no privacy protections or transparency measures in place," Markey said in a statement. "We are entering a brave new world, and just because a company soon will be able to register a drone license shouldn’t mean that company can turn it into a cash register by selling consumer information."..........................>>>>......................>>>>.......................http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/241609-democrat-drafts-drone-privacy-bill
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I'm just going to laugh here....


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Police chiefs adopt drone code of conduct
By Stephen Dinan-The Washington Times Thursday, August 16, 2012


The nation’s police chiefs have adopted a code of conduct for their use of drones, including letting any images captured by unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, be open to inspection by the public, and that the images not be stored unless they are evidence of a crime or part of an ongoing investigation.

The chiefs also said that if they plan to fly drones over an area where they are likely to spot criminal activity and where they would be intruding on someone’s “reasonable expectations of privacy,” they should seek to get a search warrant first.

In their three-page document, the chiefs said they are aware of privacy issues that have arisen with the prospect of an explosion in both governmental and private use of drone technology.

“Privacy concerns are an issue that must be dealt with effectively if a law enforcement agency expects the public to support the use of UAV by their police,” the chiefs said.

The Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International, the industry trade group, applauded the new rules, saying they struck a good balance.....................>>>>.....................>>>>.....................http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/16/police-chiefs-adopt-drone-code-conduct/

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The images won't be stored, hmmm I remember hearing that from the TSA to only to find out they were keeping those photos.


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