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Cash would work much better than gift cards.

Crackheads would steal their dealer's guns for cash to spend at the dealer's business.

They wouldn't be interested in a gift card to Sears.


Oh it will still work.  They will just sell the $250 gift card to anyone for $3.  Get approached all the time at Home Depot, Lowes.  

I'm suprised the gift cards arent for shows at Proctors or Malozzis.


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I'm suprised the gift cards arent for shows at Proctors or Malozzis.
  

Morris would probably demand police protection lol.
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If this program saves the life of even ONE child -- it will be well worth it. And I am a proponent of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Only insane and ignorant right wing assholes want children to die in poor areas.


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If this program saves the life of even ONE child -- it will be well worth it. And I am a proponent of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Only insane and ignorant right wing assholes want children to die in poor areas.


Accept it won't save anyone, the guns mostly turned in are your basic run of the mill pieces of sh1t. I seen first hand what guns are collected and destroyed and let me tell you they are not what the drug dealers are carrying or using. The majority of them are hunting rifles and shotguns, the people that are bringing them in are not the criminals, most of them are just average citizens who are low on cash and see a way to make a quick buck.



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If this program saves the life of even ONE child -- it will be well worth it. And I am a proponent of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Only insane and ignorant right wing assholes want children to die in poor areas.


And you think guns are only in poor areas ?

You probably think all drug addicts are in poor areas.

It's not the weapon that is the crime, it's the person committing the crime. Haven't you kept up on ANY news?  The past two murders in the city were committed with a knife.







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Quoted from Glryinthhighest
If this program saves the life of even ONE child -- it will be well worth it. And I am a proponent of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Only insane and ignorant right wing assholes want children to die in poor areas.


you know what saves the live of a child.....good leadership....good upbringing and the instillation of personal responsibility and self worth...

this is just a bandaid for a leaking toilet


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you know what saves the live of a child.....good leadership....good upbringing and the instillation of personal responsibility and self worth...

this is just a bandaid for a leaking toilet



Some kid will steal a gun and turn it in.

If the criminal owner finds out the kid will die.

Good plan using human shields.

Go find the guns yourself.

Paying people with gift cards to do the police departments work could catch on, and we could get rid of the cops

and just pay the snitches ourselves.

No good can come of pitting civilians against gun toting gangsters.

If someone dies the city could be liable.

They could only sue for the metroplex though. The city has nothing else except debt.
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Was just watching channel six who said the gazetto has a story that the gun buyback program in it's final stages. So you can get $25 for a non working gun or a BB gun  and $250 for an assault rifle.

BUT they want info like names and where you got it.

So that's going to deter any illegal guns from being turned in

And

say someone has a grudge against someone or a rival gang member, what if they give that persons name and it wasn't their gun???

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SCHENECTADY COUNTY
Gun buyback program to start
Gift cards worth $25 to $250 will be given

BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

Eddie Stanley’s tragic shooting death in 2011 has prompted an effort some are hoping will be an answer to reducing illegal gun crimes in Schenectady’s poorest neighborhoods.
Community leaders are in the fi nal stages of arranging what they’re describing as a sustainable gun buyback program aimed to get a variety of lethal and non-lethal weapons off the street — unregistered guns like the one prosecutors believe was used to cut short the life of the 15-year-old Schenectady High School basketball player at a late-night party last summer.
    Discussions arising in the aftermath of Stanley’s death suggested that such a program would help, provided it was ongoing and conducted in tandem with other efforts to reduce street crime. The Schenectady County Sheriff’s Department will fund the program using $10,000 in asset forfeitures with a goal of pulling roughly 30 guns off the streets next year.
    Starting next month, gift cards worth between $25 and $250 will be pursed out for the weapons, depending on what type is surrendered. Anyone bringing in a nonworking weapon or something non-lethal such as a pellet or BB gun will be awarded a $25 gift card, while functioning rifl es will earn a $100 gift card.
    Working handguns will garner a $200 gift card, while an assault rifle will bring a $250 gift card.
    “We feel it’s money well spent if we can reduce the number of guns out on the street,” Sheriff Dominic Dagostino said.
    But the program will also include a degree of accountability for those who are exchanging the guns. Anyone turning in a weapon and expecting to get anything over the minimum $25 gift card will also need to provide authorities with some basic information, such as their identity and how they obtained the weapon.
    “If there’s a willingness to share some information about the weapon that is useful or actionable information, that should warrant a bigger reward,” said county Legislator Gary Hughes, who is among the program’s proponents.
    Dagostino said the crucial element of the program is that it will be based within community organizations in the city’s Mont Pleasant, Vale and Hamilton Hill neighborhoods. He said buyback dates will be regularly scheduled each month so that the program can take root in the community and be regularly utilized to help reduce the number of weapons circulating in neighborhoods where there is a statistically high number of gunfire reports each year.
    The city has record about 500 reports of gunfire over five years ending in 2011. Dagostino said a very high percentage of these incidents occurred in Mont Pleasant, Vale or Hamilton Hill.
    “There’s a big cluster in those particular neighborhoods,” he said.
    In addition to involving local law enforcement agencies, the effort is also relying on cooperation from a number of community and faithbased organizations. Already, Dagostino is involving the city’s chapter of the NAACP, the Hamilton Hill Arts Center, the Craig Street Boys and Girls Club and the Carver Community Center.
    “We felt that we needed to reach out to these groups because they’re ultimately the people who are interacting with the community,” he said
    The sheriff’s department is planning an information campaign about the program during a peace rally in Jerry Burrell Park next month. The first buyback will be hosted at the Hamilton Hill Arts Center on June 23.
    Schenectady has had limited success with gun buyback programs in the past. Pastor Charlie Muller of Victory Christian Church in Albany last attempted to start a program in October 2008, after experiencing a degree of success in the capital.
    But the program never seemed to take root in Schenectady. Dagostino said the crucial difference this time is that the program is self-sustaining, meaning it can be allowed to grow within the community. ............................>>>>..............................>>>>.............................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00902&AppName=1
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Ask Albany how this program is working.

Albany has had 5 shootings in 9 days and they have this buy-back program.

Schenectady has to stop the revolving door for criminals with strict legal ramifications (jail time should no long be an option if you shoot someone, drive drunk or have numerous suspensions on your license), put a moratorium on pit bull ownership and the school has to take a zero tolerance stand on bullying.  

The buy-back program is only a small step when real changes are needed.
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Cash for guns on Saturday
By Paul Nelson
Updated 07:52 p.m., Friday, June 22, 2012

SCHENECTADY — The shooting earlier this week of a 20-year-old man was the latest in several shootings near Jerry Burrell Park in the Hamilton Hill neighborhood.

The victim of Monday's shooting is expected to survive.

Law enforcement officials say they hope a gun buy-back program on Saturday at Hamilton Hill Arts Center will help reduce the violence.

Schenectady County Sheriff Dominic Dagostino said in a statement: "I'm fully aware that this single effort will not eliminate illegal guns from the streets of Schenectady County but it's an effective tool law enforcement and our community can use to help us in our fight to lower gun violence on our streets."

Funding for the joint effort with other law enforcement agencies and some local members of the clergy will come from asset forfeitures from area drug dealers, Dagostino said......................>>>>.......................>>>>.................Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Cash-for-guns-on-Saturday-3655763.php#ixzz1yc3YacJM
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The law enforcement agencies realize that it is only a small step.  It hopefully has value an outreach measure.  For example, getting more cooperation (even if anonymous) when there are shooting incidents.
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There's a good reason why after a shooting in that area nobody sees anything, they want to stay alive.
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Shadow - That does not explain why they don't provide information anonymously.
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Nothing is truly anonymous .. if you really want to find out who made the tip, you've got resources to do it, and that's what scares people.
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