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Schenectady County tries gun buy-backs
Gift cards-for-guns program will be at different site each month
By Paul Nelson
Published 09:29 p.m., Sunday, May 13, 2012

Gun buy-back

The kickoff of the county's gun buy-back program will be from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. June 23 at the Hamilton Hill Arts Center, 409 Schenectady St., Schenectady. Here's how it works:

$25 gift certificate for non-working weapons or those guns that are turned in anonymously

$100 gift card for a rifle

$200 gift card for a handgun

$250 gift card for an assault rifle

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/loca.....08.php#ixzz1uq7fSF9R
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$1.25 for a steaknife.
$1.35 for a butcher knife
$1.57 for a machete


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I don't think anyone is dumb enough to sell a working gun in good condition for those low prices.
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Especially if it is Anonymously you only get $25




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$1.25 for a steak knife. $1.35 for a butcher knife. $1.57 for a machete


How much for the Mayor and his 6 DEM running dogs? Another example of working together "thinking". Pack the City Council tonight demanding resignations if these DEM morons don't have a serious plan for the $5 MILLION deficit they alone created. The State must take over City finances from these fiscal DEM incompetents with their phony revenue projections.
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Well, you can buy them for a year, @ $14,100.  That's how much they're already making, destroying the city.  The Mayor makes $96,700.  



And, here's the million dollar question...  If you turn in a gun
ANONYMOUSLY,

Where do they send the $25 gift card?


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Also, why would the program be held at 409 State Street?  In the center of the city?  Are they allowed to just walk on in with an Assault rifle in the middle of the city.  Isnt there a bettter place for this.  

IDIOTS at work again.  


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$1.25 for a steaknife.
$1.35 for a butcher knife
$1.57 for a machete


LOL


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I don't think anyone is dumb enough to sell a working gun in good condition for those low prices.


Little old ladies or the men who want to be like little old ladies.


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What if you have an assault pistol?

Are shotguns considered rifles?

How wet is water really?




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These guns come from a variety of sources...many illegal.

If a husband had several illegal guns, then is arrested for a crime and goes off to jail.  His wife is at home with her two
teenage boys.  Teenage boys have a way of finding guns... the best remedy... turn in something that is a problem
to her, and get some grocery money.  

A son comes home with an illegal pistol.  He leaves home and leaves the pistol behind.  Turning the gun into police
may implicate their son in a crime that the son didn't commit.  
Turn the gun in and get a gift card... a win/win.

There are a hundred different scenarios.

The last time a similar program was available it was very successful in getting unwanted guns off the street.


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Gun Buybacks Fail To Cut Crime, Killings
Programs Attract Wrong Weapons, Study Says

By Mike Dorning
Washington Bureau, Chicago Tribune
June 9, 2000

WASHINGTON -- Piles of weapons handed over to the police for a few dollars make compelling photographs, but repeated studies of politically popular gun buyback programs across the country have found no detectable effect on violent crime or n firearms deaths.

What's more, the guns and the owners that turn up for buybacks represent neither the kinds of weapons nor the types of people generally involved in gun crimes, said several researchers who have studied the programs. And some of those who participate in the buybacks are cashing in on spare weapons but keeping at least one at home--or they plan to use the proceeds to purchase another gun.

Gun buyback programs, in which local governments encourage residents to turn in firearms using modest cash payments or gift certificates as incentives, have become a recurring and highly visible feature of the American dialogue on violence. Just this April, when President Clinton announced a federal grant to assist the gun buyback program inWashington, he surrounded himself with a phalanx of police recruits and invoked the bloody chaos of a shooting three days earlier at the National Zoo.

Referring to the city's mayor and congressional delegate, Clinton declared, "When I called them, after that terrible tragedy at the zoo, and asked them what I could do to help, they said, `Well, why don't you help our gun buyback program?'"

The buyback programs have a potent political appeal at a time when gun violence is at the forefront of public concerns. On the one hand, they address gun-control advocates' desire to take weapons out of circulation. On the other, they generate minimal opposition from gun-rights defenders because nobody is forced to give up a weapon he wants to keep.

Among the largest buyback programs to date was one supervised last September by Cook County Sheriff's Department, which collected 5,347 guns in three weekends. The Chicago Housing Authority plans another gun buyback this September.

Still, independent follow-up studies of gun buybacks in Seattle, Sacramento, St. Louis and Boston found no evidence that the programs reduced gun crime. In Seattle, researchers also checked coroner's records and hospital admissions data for the six months following a buyback in 1992. They found no evidence of an effect on firearms-related deaths or injuries.

"The continuation of buyback programs is a triumph of wishful thinking over all the available evidence," said Garen Wintemute, director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California at Davis.

The benefits may be too subtle to detect, said Clinton administration officials, who this year plan to devote $15 million to assist local gun buyback programs. While they concede the programs do not often directly disarm criminals or recover the types of guns preferred by criminals, they nonetheless contend that eliminating any gun ultimately reduces the risk of death or injury.

"The first purpose of this is not trying to stop bad guys from robbing banks or bad guys from shooting each other. The first purpose is to get guns out of homes," said Lee Jones, a spokesman for the U.S.Department of Housing and Urban Development, which funds gun buybacks using money from an anti-drug program the department manages.

"We do think this can have a positive influence for reducing gun accidents and gun violence in the home. Or, for that matter, it prevents [the guns] from being stolen and used in crimes," Jones continued. But academic researchers--often divided by passionate differences over gun control--are in rare agreement in their conclusions. At a U.S. National Institute of Justice lecture delivered just weeks before Clinton's grant announcement, University of Pennsylvania professor Lawrence Sherman, who headed a wide-ranging assessment of crime prevention programs, called gun buybacks "the program that is best-known to be ineffective" in reducing firearms violence.

The numbers of weapons collected--typically no more than a few thousand guns, even in the most successful buyback--represent a tiny fraction of the nation's arsenal, with an estimated 220 million guns now in civilian hands and another 4.5 million newly manufactured guns added each year.

"At most, they take 1 [percent] to 2 percent of guns out of a [local] community, and he guns collected are among the least likely to be used for violence," Wintemute said. Guns used in crimes most often are modern, up-to-date, semi-automatic pistols, one weapon of choice being the 9 mm pistol used in the National Zoo shootings. The weapons turned in during buybacks overwhelmingly are older guns, such as revolvers, which in some cases don't even work. A Harvard University study of buyback programs in Boston in 1993 and 1994 found that nearly three-quarters of the guns recovered were made before 1968. In Seattle, one-quarter of the guns collected were inoperable.Also, the gun owners who turn in their weapons tend to be middle-age or elderly. Street criminals tend to be adolescents and young adults.

In any case, surveys of the people who turn in their weapons frequently find they have additional guns at home they intend to keep: in Sacramento, 59 percent of participants said they did so, as did 62 percent of participants in St. Louis and 66 percent in Seattle.

Sometimes, people also use the money they receive from turning in an old gun- one that would command a low price on resale- to help pay for a higher-quality weapon. In St. Louis, 14 percent of buyback participants said they planned to purchase a new gun within the next year. Another 13 percent said they might.
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I don't think anyone is dumb enough to sell a working gun in good condition for those low prices.
  

What will be turned in are junk guns.

Criminals don't turn in guns.
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Sometimes they post pics of the guns and they all crap like Stevens single shot 20 gauge shotguns with exposed hammers and such... $100 guns on a good day that no one wants.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Just saw this
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SCHENECTADY – There was a structure fire on a Schenectady street Sunday that resulted in four people being transported to the Schenectady Police Department’s Youth Aid Bureau.

The fire happened Sunday around 4:52 p.m. at 812 Emmett Street and the address is a vacant residential building. Four juveniles were taken to the Schenectady Police Department’s youth Aid Bureau and were interviewed by Youth Aid Detectives in regards to the fire.

Both the Schenectady Fire Department and the Schenectady Police Department investigated the incident.


So when are they having a match/lighter buy back program?

Why don't people understand that it's not the weapon that is the crime its the person who commits the crime?
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