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Henry
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YNN says there's no reason to go and vote today...

http://capitalregion.ynn.com/c.....ite-obvious-outcome/



I agree Romney supporters should stay home, if they believe they have it already sealed then what is the point of going right


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I agree Romney supporters should stay home, if they believe they have it already sealed then what is the point of going right


It is pretty much a done deal. Ron Paul has no prayer in even coming close to winning and he isn't going to run as a 3rd party canidate because it will mean the end of Rand's political career.




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It is pretty much a done deal.


What's a done deal is Obama getting a 2nd term if Romney gets the nomination. Lets say by some miracle Romney pulls it off do you really believe things will change. Watch the video I posted under the Romney for president topic, the guy is a fraud who flipped flopped on almost every single issue in the direction the wind was blowing. Face it Romney isn't uniting the party no matter how much you want to believe he is, almost every person I know will go 3rd party or do a write in because they see no difference between him and Obama. What's sad is that a Obama defeat was almost guaranteed but only the party hacks could screw up something so easily.



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Watch the video I posted under the Romney for president topic, the guy is a fraud who flipped flopped on almost every single issue in the direction the wind was blowing.


It doesn't matter Henry...HE'S A REPUBLICAN...You don't have to look any further than party affiliation.  Who cares if Romney was the first to institute compulsory health insurance? Who cares that G.W. Bush campaigned on shrinking government and phasing out the Department of Education then passed 'No Child Left Behind' and the medicare drug benefit.  Who care if GWB exploded the debt?  It's all about supporting the team.  

It's a lot easier for a so-called conservative to swallow big government when it's given to them by a Republican.


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It's a lot easier for a so-called conservative to swallow big government when it's given to them by a Republican.


How true that is, I'm a registered republican but after the general election they can kiss my a$$



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It's a lot easier for a so-called conservative to swallow big government when it's given to them by a Republican.


I understand this also.  That's why I fight for the appropriate size government (which is definitely smaller than it is now).  The problem is you have to vote for someone, and the choices are fast big government or small big government.  Primaries, I will vote for smaller government, general elections, I will vote to keep the government as small as possible.  Hopefully (but not likely), Paul will still be there.  Once we know who the small(er) government nominee is, I will support them fully.  I have seen (as you have) what happens when people split off and try to show they dissent from who the party picked as a nominee.  Just look at the last couple of times that there was a possible 3rd party small government person running, H. Ross Perot and our own Ron Paul.  Enough voting went to both of them to give us Slick Willy and Barry Saetoro.  That's why I won't vote 3rd party anymore.  Today's the most important day as far as New Yorkers are concerned.


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What's a done deal is Obama getting a 2nd term if Romney gets the nomination. Lets say by some miracle Romney pulls it off do you really believe things will change


Ok, let's go there.

I don't know what I'll get with Romney. I don't know what type of POTUS he will be. I don't know what he'll flip flop on. I do know that he isn't a Marxist

I do know what I'm going to get if Obama is re-elected. I do know Obama is a Marxist and is bent on destroying the USA because he wants to 'fundamentally' change it.

What one do you want?




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I expect Rand Paul to be running for and become POTUS at some point, but with a few more Obama Supreme Court appointments, we will have to really wait and see if there will be elections in 4 or 8 years. Or if there are, how many millions of foreigners will be voting to make sure no one but a democrap ever gets in. Go ahead and write in Ron Paul and make sure Obama makes it back in. Rotterdam is a test case for what happens when you sink the ship to prove a point. I voted for Ron Paul in a couple primaries now at this point. He is not going to be nominated. That does not mean I can accept Obama for four more years. It all comes down to two words: Supreme Court.


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I don't know what I'll get with Romney. I don't know what type of POTUS he will be. I don't know what he'll flip flop on. I do know that he isn't a Marxist

What one do you want?


That should tell you something right there if you don't know what you would get from the candidate you will vote for, and people wonder why nothing changes Lets go by what you do know, you know Romney passed a version of Obamacare, you do know he was pro-choice, you do know he has one of the worst 2nd amendment records in this country, you do know he was for the bailouts, you do know he flip flopped on everything I just mentioned, I can go on.

What one do I want you ask, neither and I won't sell out my beliefs for the lesser of 2 evils because either way we are heading off the cliff. At the end of the day I will sleep well knowing I did the right thing, will you be able to if Romney turns out just like Obama.



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Go ahead and write in Ron Paul and make sure Obama makes it back in. Rotterdam is a test case for what happens when you sink the ship to prove a point.


If elections aren't to "prove a point" what are they for?  That's the point of political pressure.  When the little people can't influence politics with big money, they go to the voting booth in mass and make a point.  

George W. Bush gave us the Patriot Act, Department of Homeland Security, No Child Left Behind, Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit, and the Iraq War.  But he's a good conservative according to many "conservatives", and deserved my vote because he's not a "Liberal" like Kerry.  If Obama's a Liberal, what was Bush?  How about his daddy George HW Bush, he passed the Americans with Disabilities Act - a real conservative there.

People keep on believing that Obama is pushing the country in some NEW direction.  He hasn't!  Both parties have been centralizing power incrementally for decades.  It's like that old saying about how to cook frogs legs without them jumping out of the pot.  You s-l-o-w-l-y turn up the heat.  The same has happened with our civil liberties and freedom.  Both parties take our freedom away by using different rhetoric depending on the mood of the nation.  No matter if the public opinion swings left or right, the Republican and Democrat Party have the political rhetoric to pacify the public and continue consolidating power.

And for your point about Rotterdam, how does it feel to have financially supported Angelo Santatbarbara for Republican legislator and is now running for higher office as a Democrat?  As long as he has a (R) next to his name, I'm sure you would have carried petitions for him.  Because that's what good party patriots do.


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This is my first time voting for a presidential candidate where I didn't have to hold my nose while making my selection.  


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So if you live in Rotterdam, where do you vote? No post cards even went out for this!



rotterdam is famous for it's signage....they were all over, in postcard size of course


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Ramming Romney down the american people's throats under the guise of a possible threat of another obama dictatorship term ain't enough for me! And shame on the lame stream media for being the gop's water boy! It's sickening!!

Romney will lose whether you write in Paul or not!! Romney was a piss poor choice and the american people will see that come November!!

So my advice is.......write in paul and vote your conscience and your beliefs because the outcome will be the same!! OBAMA A 2ND TERM!!

A vote for Paul is NOT a vote for obama. It is a vote for the future and the protection of our liberties and constitution and getting america's financial house in order!!

Remember....voting for the lesser of 2 evils, is still voting for evil! (and I'm using 'evil' as an example..not personally)


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Remember....voting for the lesser of 2 evils, is still voting for evil! (and I'm using 'evil' as an example..not personally)


Look at the standards people are saying to justify a Romney win, Buck said Romney isn't a Marxist so that's good enough for me, is that really how low we set the bar for this country



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