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An $8 billion trick?
Toying with Medicare to fix elex

By BENJAMIN E. SASSE & CHARLES HURT
Last Updated: 1:41 AM, April 23, 2012
Posted: 10:45 PM, April 22, 2012

Call it President Obama’s Committee for the Re-Election of the President — a political slush fund at the Health and Human Services Department.
Only this isn’t some little fund from shadowy private sources; this is taxpayer money, redirected to help Obama win another term. A massive amount of it, too — $8.3 billion. Yes, that’s billion, with a B.
Here is how it works.
The most oppressive aspects of the ObamaCare law don’t kick in until after the 2012 election, when the president will no longer be answerable to voters. More “flexibility,” he recently explained to the Russians.

Postponing the pain: The administration is temporarily restoring funds to Medicare Advantage so seniors don’t lose coverage before the election.

But certain voters would surely notice one highly painful part of the law before then — namely, the way it guts the popular Medicare Advantage program.
For years, 12 million seniors have relied on these policies, a more market-oriented alternative to traditional Medicare, without the aggravating gaps in coverage.
But as part of its hundreds of billions in Medicare cuts, the Obama one-size-fits-all plan slashes reimbursement rates for Medicare Advantage starting next year — herding many seniors back into the government-run program....................>>>>...............>>>>..................Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/o.....JzXEIJ#ixzz1srSGg7BC
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WAs talking to some folks who live in florida over the weekend. Many doctors down there said that if they don't repeal obamacare,  most doctors will leave their practice. They said that this had NOTHING to do with covering the uninsured but everything to do with the medical costs of the upcoming baby boomers.

Obamacare will impose so many mandates on private insurance companies that their rates will be so high that the boomers will have no choice but to opt into a government run program. Medicare is already being shaved down to the bare minimum...and this is just the beginning!!!

So even if the part of obamacare, forcing everyone to buy healthcare coverage, gets repealed, the private insurance rates will sore and will leave the boomers NO CHOICE!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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WAs talking to some folks who live in florida over the weekend. Many doctors down there said that if they don't repeal obamacare,  most doctors will leave their practice. They said that this had NOTHING to do with covering the uninsured but everything to do with the medical costs of the upcoming baby boomers.

Obamacare will impose so many mandates on private insurance companies that their rates will be so high that the boomers will have no choice but to opt into a government run program. Medicare is already being shaved down to the bare minimum...and this is just the beginning!!!

So even if the part of obamacare, forcing everyone to buy healthcare coverage, gets repealed, the private insurance rates will sore and will leave the boomers NO CHOICE!!


Just so you know... there is no government run program. in Obamacare...
There is a government administered PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANY plan... but no GOVERNMENT RUN PLAN.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Can't wait to hear the supreme court ruling due out soon on Obamacare ... and the eventual repeal of this stupid program by the incoming new administration in 2013.
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Anything that the government administers is run by the government through the way it will be regulated.
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oh...it's RUN....CONTROLLED....DIRECTED...ADMINISTERED....AND PAID FOR BY US....IS IT BETTER? MORE COMPETENT? BETTER EFFECT?

what's funny is folks will buy a bunch of CRAP from dollar stores/endcaps/garage sales/fast food joints/lotto tickets/cigarettes/alcohol etc and then complain about
the cost of healthcare....

is it overpriced? might be....but get this...TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF----DONT LET THE GOVERNMENT DO IT FOR YOU.....PAY ATTENTION ACCEPT THE RESULT OF YOUR
CHOICES....

over eat/poor diet=consequence
smoking=consequence
drinking=consequence
sedentary life style=consequence

the list is endless....dont let folks like DADDY BLOOMBERG CHOOSE FOR YOU....NYC has become the 'utopia' in Demolition Man and the beginning of those 'free
choices'......that are run/controlled/administered/directed by our elected.....

welcome to our future of choice


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Romney Care in MA is running well for it's citizens.  Not govt run health care, but govt administered, private
health care.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Romney Care in MA is running well for it's citizens.  Not govt run health care, but govt administered, private
health care.



rhetoric....the dirt is in the details....SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL....walmart bribes to get business....WTH does everyone think happens when
the 'government administers'......

they use terms like terrorists/agendas/progressive/patriot act/access etc etc......

I'm not saying our system is perfect by any means....but those folks that tout access will ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS(susan sarandon, fat moore,
madonna, brangelina, buffet, any elected official etc)

it's the changes in the fiat system and the rhetoric used....do we really think there will actually be cash changing hands with our realID/health
card?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Just so you know... there is no government run program. in Obamacare...
There is a government administered PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANY plan... but no GOVERNMENT RUN PLAN.


Like Amtrak, or better yet, Fannie Mae.  Two "private" businesses that heavily subsidized and regulated by the federal government.  


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