Obama, The Most Fiscally Conservative President? ... Almost. Obama is the 2nd MOST FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT IN MODERN TIMES, Bill Clinton wins the title of Most Fiscally Conservative!
But... but... what about all the Right Wing rhetoric??? ... What about the Tax & Spend Democrats??? ... What about Obama spending more than all US Presidents combined??? Um... If you only believe what Republicans and Fox News tells you ... all you'll know is lies!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box, the Obamacare bill was back loaded. The government spending for that bill may be on another presidents watch. Talk about lies...You just posted one.
Box, the Obamacare bill was back loaded. The government spending for that bill may be on another presidents watch. Talk about lies...You just posted one.
Obamacare has yet to get passed the Right Wingers Supreme Court. It may be altered or ended by a future administration. As yet, ObamaCare has yet to cost the USA much of anything.
But if that's your only disagreement... then I'm glad that Cicero agrees that...
Bill Clinton IS the Most Fiscally Conservative President of our time!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cicero, why bother with this troll - he's only here to bait ya and stir up sh*t that he can't find on the gloversville forum ... everyone there learned not to argue with idiots cause you can't cure stupid.
Obama, The Most Fiscally Conservative President? ... Almost. Obama is the 2nd MOST FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT IN MODERN TIMES, Bill Clinton wins the title of Most Fiscally Conservative!
But... but... what about all the Right Wing rhetoric??? ... What about the Tax & Spend Democrats??? ... What about Obama spending more than all US Presidents combined??? Um... If you only believe what Republicans and Fox News tells you ... all you'll know is lies!
Cicero, why bother with this troll - he's only here to bait ya and stir up sh*t that he can't find on the gloversville forum ... everyone there learned not to argue with idiots cause you can't cure stupid.
I enjoy the rhetorical debate...It helps fine tune my arguments when engaging these people face to face. He may be the Rotterdamny troll, but there is an army of them walking around this country, equipped with the same silly arguments. Box is of great value on this site.
Cicero, why bother with this troll - he's only here to bait ya and stir up sh*t that he can't find on the gloversville forum ... everyone there learned not to argue with idiots cause you can't cure stupid.
When Conservatives... especially the 'angry conservatives' encounter any opposition... they bluff... they bluster... then they run away. MT is doing all three at once.
If ya can't take the heat MT stay outta the kitchen. The way I look at it, you aren't disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with the Atlantic.
MT you don't have to respond to any of my posts, or respond to all of them... makes no difference to me.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The way I look at it, you aren't disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with the Atlantic.
I'm trying to help your analytical skills, don't post half truths (especially graphs/charts) without analyzing the data first and determining if it is comprehensive, which this graph clearly is not.
I'm trying to help your analytical skills, don't post half truths (especially graphs/charts) without analyzing the data first and determining if it is comprehensive, which this graph clearly is not.
Thanks, but I don't need any help... the graph is factual. Obama care hasn't added very much to spending YET and it may even reduce the rate of increase spending in the future... for a future president.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Thanks, but I don't need any help... the graph is factual. Obama care hasn't added very much to spending YET and it may even reduce the rate of increase spending in the future... for a future president.
It is also factual if you meaure the same statistics using the House and Senate majority leaders instead of presidents...In that case, the party affiliation would change. Clinton presided over a Republican congress 6 of his 8 years, and Obama did also 2 of the 3 years.
The way the game is played is by blaming the negatives on the "do nothing congress" and any positives are credited to the President.
This is just more manipulating statistics to fool the sheeple.
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Obama has "reduced" the annual "growth" in the budget. Just like Stratton did for the City of Schenectady (campaign rhetoric for all of his elections). Its a Democratic Party Ploy. Its also an Oxymoron. Unfortunately most Liberals will take that to mean that Spending Has Been Reduced. Spending is still Out Of Control.
But here in the USA if we don't have the money, we just print some more and here in Schenectady we just raise the taxes. After all, its only Paper and Trees are a Renewable Resource. Taxpayers however are dying off, moving away, and getting the hell out of here while the country's "neediest and unemployable" sock the system for all they can get.
Its a game and whoever ends up with nothing, wins in the minds of the most liberal of them all.
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