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Box A Rox
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100% huh?  So yo DO agree with the 7-1 decision on Plessy v Ferguson.  I knew it!  Those in costumes are always right.


I don't know what you might have viewed as correct in Plessy v Ferguson... if you were around back
then.
Possibly you would have agreed, or maybe not... we'll never know.
But we do know that the Supreme Court DID vote in favor of Freedom in Brown v. Board of Education
that DID happen in my lifetime... of which I firmly agree.  Many of your Conservative brethren still
consider that decision in error.

Either way, the decision of our Supreme Court is the law of the land.  Your opinion is... just your opinion.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Either way, the decision of our Supreme Court is the law of the land.  Your opinion is... just your opinion.


So is Citizens United v Federal Election Commission and Bush v Gore.  I don't need to hear your whinning opinions about those CORRECT decisions anymore then.  THANK GOD!


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So is Citizens United v Federal Election Commission and Bush v Gore.  I don't need to hear your whinning opinions about those CORRECT decisions anymore then.  THANK GOD!


Citizens United is in jeopardy.  Bush V Gore was a mistake, at least that's how some who voted
see it.  They think that the SOTUS should not have voted at all in that decision.

The more the Right pushes repeal of Roe v Wade or continues the GOP War on Women the more
likely another Dem Victory in '16.


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Obama To Veto Abortion Bill

(More proof that the GOP is in a 'demographic death spiral)
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President Obama, through a White House policy statement, has threatened to veto the House’s bill
that would ban abortions after 20 weeks if it reaches his desk.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/legislative/sap/113/saphr1797r_20130617.pdf

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Forty years after the Supreme Court issued its opinion in Roe v. Wade, significantly more
Americans want the landmark abortion decision kept in place rather than overturned, 53% to 29%.
Another 18% have no opinion


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The more the Right pushes repeal of Roe v Wade or continues the GOP War on Women the more
likely another Dem Victory in '16.


I don't really believe it's going to be a top political issue that determines the outcome of elections.  It's a distraction.  The house went historically republican in the 2010 midterms with many "tea party" pro lifers winning.  In 2000 and 2004 pro life GWB won.

I believe the electorate that make abortion their key issue are not going to be swayed by a pro choice republican.  


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there is NO  GOP war on women....women are fighting themselves....they have made classes amongst themselves.....and they
WAIT for someone to give them 'legal' permission.......

there IS NO WAR ON WOMEN....just division as is with ALL OF US......government doesn't bring people together, especially when
it's BIG DADDY.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Folks like Box and the Pro-Death/Abortion crowd would have fit in well in the Jim Crow South and in Germany in the 1930's.  They have the same mind set --- which is --  After all, the leader is enormously popular in the public opinion polls and the groups that they we are oppressing are "not really human."

Make no mistake about it,  Obama and the Pelosipalosers ARE real life oppressors IN THE FLESH .. TODAY.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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The "Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act," expected to pass by a comfortable margin late Tuesday,
would be a direct challenge to the 1973 Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision that legalized abortions up
to the time a fetus becomes viable. Fetal viability is generally considered to be at least 24 weeks into
the pregnancy.

The measure will be ignored by the Democratic-led Senate and the White House, saying the bill is "an
assault on a woman's right to choose," has issued a veto threat.


The bill, TYPICAL RIGHT WING MISOGYNY, would force a woman to carry to term, a fetus who has no
chance of survival.  A woman carrying a fetus that developed without a skull, a fetus that could never
be viable, would now have to be carried to term... or face murder charges.

The GOP War On Women just gets more and more bizarre.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday signed off on a bill that would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.
The bill would narrow the window currently set out by federal law and the Supreme Court, which bans most abortions after 24 weeks of pregnancy. Some Republican-controlled state legislatures have passed similar laws in recent months.

The bill passed committee by a 20-12 vote and is headed for the House floor.

The so-called Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act was authored by Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) in response to the brutal abuses at a Philadelphia abortion clinic run by Kermit Gosnell. The physician was sentenced in May to life in prison in the deaths of three babies after they were born at his clinic.

A similar measure that would have applied only to the District of Columbia failed in the House last year. Franks expanded the bill to cover the whole United States in response to the Gosnell case.

Supporters of the bill cite a study that fetuses can feel pain as early as the 20th week of



This bill is ONLY banning abortions after 20 weeks.  Most woman will have had at least one if not two ultrasounds done by 20 weeks so your
argument that a woman would have to carry a baby to term is wrong.

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Most patients will have at least one scan at 18 - 20 weeks gestation to evaluate the fetal anatomy. It is also common to have a scan in the first trimester to establish dating for the pregnancy and, if desired, screen for Down syndrome. (This first trimester ultrasound would include the nuchal translucency and is combined with a blood test for a complete "first trimester screen.")
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This bill is ONLY banning abortions after 20 weeks.  Most woman will have had at least one if not two ultrasounds done by 20 weeks so your
argument that a woman would have to carry a baby to term is wrong.


So women with access to health care will have at least one ultrasound...
and if she was getting her health care through PP... in many states where the GOP War On WOmen
has shut PP Down... she is just $hit out of luck, and will have to carry this almost human  
skullless fetus to term.
Yea firs they take away her access to prenatal health care, then blame her when she wants to end
a lifeless pregnancy.

AND THERE IS NO GOP WAR ON WOMEN?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Yea firs they take away her access to prenatal health care, then blame her when she wants to end
a lifeless pregnancy.


No one is taking away access to prenatal health care.  

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No one is taking away access to prenatal health care.  


For many poor women, PP is the only health care they have...
And the GOP War On Women has closed PP in some states.


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Funny how attitudes haven’t shifted in the same way when it come to women and, especially, anything
to do with sex. Why are debates about reproductive rights mired in Neanderthal attitudes, demonstrably
fanciful notions about biology (“legitimate rape”), and pro-life activists stubbornly resistant to even basic
attempts at reasonable compromise?

Indeed, many of the most extreme anti-choice measures passed in state legislatures (and, as of this week,
potentially the US Congress) stand on weak constitutional grounds; “fetal heartbeat” laws create a
whole new standard of fetal viability and legal experts predict costly and ultimately pointless court battles
defending them. Many mainstream anti-abortion groups even shy away from supporting these
unprecedented decisions: neither National Right to Life, Americans United for Life nor the Roman Catholic
Church have campaigned for them. Yet conservatives continue to march out parades of white men
to spout aggressively ignorant arguments that alienate even audiences inclined to be sympathetic to
their point of view.

In the last election cycle, Republicans lost ground with suburban white women,
and women in general, and polls suggest that antipathy stemmed almost entirely
from the impression that conservatives were coming for their birth control.


In 12 swing states in 2012, a plurality of women named abortion as their top
electoral priority. Men (especially Republican men) seem befuddled (or in denial)
by women’s intractability on the issue.


Speaking at the Faith and Freedom Coalition conference last weekend, American Values
president Gary Bauer insisted, “The social issues we believe in are more popular than the
Republican economic agenda.” At best, they assume arguments about abortion to be a
“distraction” from the obvious top priority, the economy. This week, moderate
Republican congressman Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania expressed exasperation with the
House leadership’s decision to bring to the floor a bill a federal ban on abortions 20 weeks
after conception:
“I’ll be very frank: I discouraged our leadership from bringing this to a vote on the floor
… Clearly the economy is on everyone’s minds, we’re seeing very stagnant job numbers,
confidence in the institution of government is eroding and now we’re going to have a debate
on rape and abortion. The stupidity is simply staggering.”


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The Republican War On Women will guarantee another Democrat will be president in 2016...
but American Women will pay the price in lost health care, lost reproductive rights and women's
rights.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Instead of reaching out to pro-choice women voters, House Republicans chose to antagonize
them. So far, Republicans have ignored the advice of their own rebrand by voting to raise
interest rates on student loans, threatening to kill immigration reform, and passing a federal
abortion ban. In three simple steps, House Republicans have managed to alienate key parts
of the constituency that has powered Barack Obama to two presidential election victories.

These votes are also paving the path for Hillary Clinton to win the White House in 2016.
Republicans keep blaming the candidate at the top of the ticket, when the real problem is
that the right wing zealots in the House are destroying the party’s brand. House Republicans
have placed their party on a path to hand the 2016 election to Hillary Clinton.

By continuing to be anti-young person, anti-immigrant, and anti-women, the GOP is setting
up a scenario where all Hillary Clinton, or any other Democrat will have to do is hold the Obama
coalition together, and they will win. The great irony is that the glue that’s binding these people
together is the actions of the Republican Party.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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