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I'm afraid that you're poster is wrong Tommy...  IT'S TOO DIFFICULT A CONCEPT FOR THIS CREW TO GRASP!


gee ya know ye right the sperm aint in the egg yet
but when it penetrates and becomes one the big bang of life begins again,
it is a glorius and wonderfull event,
it is the human race contiuing,
such and inconvienence


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it depends on your model whether or not things are as they seem,
If you are a reductionist, or a materialist you would view it one way ,
or if your view allows for potential energy, the potential of the acorn, or the egg.
the acorn is a tree, it knows it is a tree ,it does not have to be told it is a tree nor does it have to be taught how to be a tree,
it falls into the ground and becomes what it is,
Of course there is always the possibility that as one falls to the ground it could be caught by a bird and eaten,
Or it could get stepped on.
Same way with  fetuses, under 'normal circumstances' it will become what it already is.
Unless of course some intervention takes place.
The battle rages on and will forever.
As long as one insists on controlling the other.
Let the one control itself and the other will take care of it self.
Stop insisting that one become the other and  all other become one, it is unrealistic,
Let the one that does do and the one who does not not
But let not one make the other pay for its choice, or the other make the one pay for its choice.
and then there can be rest.


Well said! I don't believe in abortions and don't force that belief on anyone else. So don't 'force' me to accept or pay for something 'I' don't believe in...........simple as that!!


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CIC considers the fetus a person... If that were actually the case, then, as Cicero himself put it:
(38 States that have laws punishing the assault that caused the  intentional termination of a FETUS)
Since a fetus is obviously NOT a person, homicide does not apply to a FETUS, that law is reserved for killing
a human being... not a fetus.... Thus, for incidents where the fetus is intentionally killed by an assailant
the  fetal homicide or "feticide" laws were enacted.


Well, let's start by going back to your mastectomy example.  Would the person that removes the breast of an unwilling women by assault be charged with "breast homicide" or "breasticide"?  Was the breast KILLED?  

Not only does CIC consider the fetus a person, so do 38 states.  Scott Peterson was charged and convicted with DOUBLE MURDER for the death or his wife and UNBORN FETUS.  If Laci Peterson decided to abort her unborn son Connor, an abortion doctor would have been paid well to kill the same fetus that Scott Peterson was charged with murdering.  

It seems that the death of a FETUS is a homicide at the hands of one person but a profitable business at the hands of a doctor.  

So lets go back to your original fallacy. Example 4 is not called an abortion and is not legal when committed by someone other than a doctor with the woman's consent.  It is treated as homicide in most states.  

So it looks like you are confused box.  The egg yolk picture you show suddenly receives protection from violent acts committed against it, as long as those acts are not committed by the mother and the mother recognizes it as something of higher value than an egg yolk.  Those protections are not afforded to any other part of the body.  There is no 'lungicide', or livericide, or 'stomachicide' laws.  
Quoted from Box A Rox

1. The term for killing a human being, that is, a person... is murder.
2. The term for killing sperm... there is none.
3. The term for killing ovum... there is none.
4. The term for killing a sperm, and an ovum once they are united and implanted in the uterus, is called
an abortion.


#1 is illegal...
#2,3 &4 are legal...
Some people confuse #2,3, & 4 with #1.  


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keep talking and supporting the woman's right to choose abortion....because it happens IN A WOMAN'S BODY.....not the testicles......

keep promoting planned parenthood/birthcontrol as if the penis and the girl private are on the same page....what an F'EN joke......

let me know when killing a sperm (IN THE MAN VIA AN INGESTED CHEMICAL) happens.....I'll be right behind ya as a cheerleader.....until that time.....box has no voice nor does any other human being with testicles.....

notice the change above?......yeah,,,,that's why it's a one sided conversation regardless of the religion.....VAG!NA.....GET IT?


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keep talking and supporting the woman's right to choose abortion....because it happens IN A WOMAN'S BODY.....not the testicles......

keep promoting planned parenthood/birthcontrol as if the penis and the girl private are on the same page....what an F'EN joke......

let me know when killing a sperm (IN THE MAN VIA AN INGESTED CHEMICAL) happens.....I'll be right behind ya as a cheerleader.....until that time.....box has no voice nor does any other human being with testicles.....

notice the change above?......yeah,,,,that's why it's a one sided conversation regardless of the religion.....VAG!NA.....GET IT?


got it,
personally i like vag!na's very much,


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