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Box A Rox
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First, show me proof of a theory.  You can't.  If you can prove a theory, it's no longer a theory, it's now a law (the LAW of gravity, the LAW of relativity...).


See post 1794 in the thread:
Paul For President 2012?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Margaret Sanger
Founder of Planned Parenthood

In Her Own Words


"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
(Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

Copyright © 2001 Diane S.  Dew      http://www.dianedew.com
     
Margaret Sanger (1883-1966)
On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born."  Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people


On sterilization & racial purification:
Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.

On the right of married couples to bear children:
Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932

On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)

On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities:
"More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12

On religious convictions regarding sex outside of marriage:
"This book aims to answer the needs expressed in thousands on thousands of letters to me in the solution of marriage problems... Knowledge of sex truths frankly and plainly presented cannot possibly injure healthy, normal, young minds. Concealment, suppression, futile attempts to veil the unveilable - these work injury, as they seldom succeed and only render those who indulge in them ridiculous. For myself, I have full confidence in the cleanliness, the open-mindedness, the promise of the younger generation." Margaret Sanger, Happiness in Marriage (Bretano's, New York, 1927)

On the extermination of blacks:
"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,"
she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon

On respecting the rights of the mentally ill:
In her "Plan for Peace," Sanger outlined her strategy for eradication of those she deemed "feebleminded." Among the steps included in her evil scheme were immigration restrictions; compulsory sterilization; segregation to a lifetime of farm work; etc. Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 107

On adultery:
A woman's physical satisfaction was more important than any marriage vow, Sanger believed. Birth Control in America, p. 11

On marital sex:
"The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order," Sanger said. (p. 23) [Quite the opposite of God's view on the matter: "Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled; but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." (Hebrews 13:4)

On abortion:
"Criminal' abortions arise from a perverted sex relationship under the stress of economic necessity, and their greatest frequency is among married women." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.

On the YMCA and YWCA:
"...brothels of the Spirit and morgues of Freedom!"), The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.

On the Catholic Church's view of contraception:
"...enforce SUBJUGATION by TURNING WOMAN INTO A MERE INCUBATOR." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.

On motherhood:
"I cannot refrain from saying that women must come to recognize there is some function of womanhood other than being a child-bearing machine." What Every Girl Should Know, by Margaret Sanger (Max Maisel, Publisher, 1915) [Jesus said: "Daughters of Jerusalem, weep... for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in which they shall say, Blessed (happy) are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the breasts which never gave suck." (Luke 23:24)]

"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)
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And who was Margret Sanger?....A social conservative?.....A political moderate?

Nope!....She was a Progressive Socialist like Boxy the Roxy is.




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that 'dad' in Glens Falls fixed his and the mother's problem.....then the 2 kids left unattended in a building that was burning....wow....and GUESS WHAT....the news report actually said officials were looking for the PARENTS...OH
THEY SAID PARENTS....NOT ---- 'the mother'.....

we've come a long way baby.....hahahahahaha.....

oh those poor poor women made to continue the pregnancy like a stray cat...pathetic.....then there's all those ally-cat peckerheads just looking for those stray cats......hahahahahahaha

abortion will ALWAYS exist,,,,killing of the offspring will always happen.....

1. abortion is NOT a savior, dont be a cheerleader
2. the PARENTS are responsible

we have negated the definition of parents and have relegated that title to hooking up and wallah,,,,,lookie lookie lookie, it's a cookie......but damn, there's no direction booklet except for  billboards/public service announcements and
drug commercials......

what a nice place we live.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If it weren't for the WHITE RIGHT....PRO-LIFE....ANTI-ABORTION people.....there would be no so called 'parasitic blacks' left in society. Which makes the false statement that the 'RIGHT IS RACIST' a moot point! It has always been the WHITE RIGHT who fought for the blacks. That is why the Progressive Socialists hate the PRO-LIFE, ANTI-ABORTION WHITE RIGHT!!

The Progressive Socialist, Planned Parenthood, Pro-Abortion motto should read:

'We don't empower them........We kill them'!

And that is the bottom line here folks!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Always wondered about this question.   If abortion became illegal due to a supreme court ruling and became the law of the land,inclusive of all states, just what would the punishment be for breaking said law and who would set the guidelines for said sentencing.   What would be an appropiate sentence?   A fine, 20 years in prison, probation, or capital punishment?   In all the talk of making it illegal, I never hear of the way the punishment to break such a law would be meted out.
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I know a girl  7 abortions and more I lost track..  All paid for by Medicaid no$ so that is at least 7 less people in this city.  That is sobering to me to know this person directly thank god she is not a friend of mine she is a friends daughter


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Always wondered about this question.   If abortion became illegal due to a supreme court ruling and became the law of the land,inclusive of all states, just what would the punishment be for breaking said law and who would set the guidelines for said sentencing.   What would be an appropiate sentence?   A fine, 20 years in prison, probation, or capital punishment?   In all the talk of making it illegal, I never hear of the way the punishment to break such a law would be meted out.


The thing is that there is a very serious 'double standard' when it comes to this.

I don't like to use Wiki as a source, but this is a confirmed truth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act

Have fun figuring it out.

You also have this that makes a VERY compeling argument..... http://www.abajournal.com/news.....ngful_death_decision (I didn't use Fox News because the jackbooted progressive socialists/communists/facists on this board might explode)





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I know a girl  7 abortions and more I lost track..  All paid for by Medicaid no$ so that is at least 7 less people in this city.  That is sobering to me to know this person directly thank god she is not a friend of mine she is a friends daughter


She sounds like she would have made a terrible mother, and would have added 7 unwanted kids for the
taxpayers to support.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Margaret Sanger
Founder of Planned Parenthood
In Her Own Words
Yadda yadda yadda...)


Shadow's rant is a favorite of the Right Wing, who have sent this hoax into viral status on the internet. Just
google "Margaret Sanger" and you will see it repeated again and again... the latest time by Conservative GOP
has been Herman Cain.

Below is the truth if you are interested.  But I doubt many on this board are interested in the truth, when the
lies support their agenda.

From FACTCHECK.ORG

Cain isn’t the first to believe that birth control advocate Margaret Sanger (1879-1966) wanted to stop
the birth of black babies. Just do an Internet search and see what happens. Sanger made more than her
share of controversial comments. But the quote many point to as evidence that Sanger favored something
akin to “genocide” of African Americans has been turned on its head.

Sanger, who was arrested several times in her efforts to bring birth control to women in the United States,
set up her first clinic in Brooklyn in 1916. In the late 1930s, she sought to bring clinics to black women in
the South, in an effort that was called the “Negro Project.” Sanger wrote in 1939 letters to colleague
Clarence James Gamble that she believed the project needed a black physician and black minister to gain
the trust of the community:

Sanger, 1939: The minister’s work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation
as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to
exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever
occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to “exterminate the
Negro population.” She didn’t say that she wanted to “exterminate” the black population. The Margaret
Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this quote has “gone viral on the Internet,”
normally out of context, and it “doesn’t reflect the fact that Sanger recognized elements within the black
community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim
Crow south, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a
humanitarian aim.”


It goes on to characterize beliefs such as Cain’s as “extremist.” The project says: “No serious scholar
and none of the dozens of black leaders who supported Sanger’s work have ever suggested that she
tried to reduce the black population or set up black abortion mills, the implication in much of the
extremist anti-choice material.”

Factcheck.org
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/11/cains-false-attack-on-planned-parenthood/

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THE WASHINGTON POST

If you think that Factcheck.org is mistaken, then look at the same story from THE WASHINGTON POST,
which gave Cains LIES  Four Pinocchios (4 Pinocchios is only used to describe the biggest lies)

There is no evidence that Sanger ever sought to kill black babies, either through the Negro Project or
any other endeavor. Cain’s claim that three-quarters of Planned Parenthood’s facilities are in black
neighborhoods also appears wildly exaggerated.



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POLITIFACT

When Sanger did open a Harlem clinic in the early 1930s, about half of its patients were white. Members of
the black establishment, including DuBois and black newspaper the Amsterdam News, supported it. This
was hardly the pro-genocide camp.
None of these centers performed abortions.

Those who think Sanger wanted black genocide cite the Negro Project. But even their strongest evidence,
a passage from a letter she wrote advocating that organizers recruit black ministers for the project, does
not come close to proving a genocidal plot.

Sanger wrote that "We don’t want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and
the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs."

But her correspondence shows this sentence advocates for black doctors and ministers to play leadership
roles in the Negro Project to avoid misunderstandings. Lynchings and Jim Crow laws gave blacks good
reason to be wary of attempts to limit the number of children they bore. In Harlem, she hired a black
doctor and social worker to quell those fears.

The facts of the Negro Project suggest nothing more genocidal than a public health project. Black leaders
DuBois and Mary McLeod Bethune, founder of the National Council of Negro Women, and the pastor of the
influential black Abyssinian Baptist Church were members of its advisory council. First lady Eleanor
Roosevelt was supportive.



Politifact
http://www.politifact.com/geor.....founded-planned-gen/

I doubt that the FACTS will change Shadow's view... the lies are just too appealing and fit the anti choice
agenda so well!
Continue to post the lies if you choose, but at least now you know that you are posting lies instead of just
posting propaganda.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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I know a girl  7 abortions and more I lost track..  All paid for by Medicaid no$ so that is at least 7 less people in this city.  That is sobering to me to know this person directly thank god she is not a friend of mine she is a friends daughter


Is she black? I guess in this case, black or white....the mother herself should have been aborted/killed before she was even born. She is obviously just one of those 'parasitics' that should have been eliminated.

Damn those WHITE RIGHT LUNATICS!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Bottom line folks.......it was created to rid society of the 'parasitic blacks'!!!

MOTTO: 'We don't empower them......we kill them'.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Bottom line folks.......it was created to rid society of the 'parasitic blacks'!!!

MOTTO: 'We don't empower them......we kill them'.


No bumble... you're wrong.  Read post #24 if you want the truth... if not just go on posting lies.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Box what I posted was the exact words Sanger said and they can be found in her book nothing right wing about what I posted you're arguing with another social progressive, Sanger.
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Box what I posted was the exact words Sanger said and they can be found in her book nothing right wing about what I posted you're arguing with another social progressive, Sanger.


YUP Those are Margaret Sanger's exact words that you posted.  Did you even read what she meant?  If
you read post #24 you can read for yourself what she meant... or... you can go on posting the anti choice lies and
be a tool of Right Wing Propaganda.

I posted three different groups that seek out the truth of internet hoaxes and lies... each one calling your story
a lie.  
Keep on posting a lie if you choose... it makes no difference to me.  
Your disagreement isn't with me Shadow... it's with three different FACT CHECKING ORGANIZATIONS...
Factcheck.org, Politifact and The Washington Post .



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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