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Box A Rox
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Why can’t everyone just live and let live?

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Enough is enough! What don’t you understand about the constitutional separation of church and state?
If you are against abortion, don’t have one. If you are against the use of contraceptives, don’t use them.
If you are against sex education for your children, opt out. If you favor abstinence, practice it. If you
believe homosexuality is a matter of choice; that evolution is bogus; and that the Bible is the ultimate
arbitrator, then believe it. If you are against same-sex marriage, don’t attend one. If you believe marriage
is only between one man and one woman, then don’t get divorced or practice polygamy.
If you believe that pedophiles, homophiles, and sex abusers are the very few exceptions among
evangelical and Catholic clergy, and that “victims” of child abuse are liars, so be it. However, these are
all personal choices that you are free to make.
You complain that government does not observe the Constitution, and controls or limits your freedom,
yet you insist that everyone else should accept the intolerance of your religious dogma, and worse still,
make it the secular and civil law of the land. That is the real limitation of freedom.
George W. Putman
Saratoga Springs

Daily Gazette
http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2012/feb/18/0218_print/


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Why can’t everyone just live and let live?



Answer: Because progessive socialists,like yourself,don't allow it. This is because they believe that they are elite and that the people are too dumb to make decisions for themselves on any level.

P.S. Mr. Putman has no idea what he's talking and about because of this....

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You complain that government does not observe the Constitution, and controls or limits your freedom,
yet you insist that everyone else should accept the intolerance of your religious dogma, and worse still,
make it the secular and civil law of the land. That is the real limitation of freedom.


I'll bet about anything that he couldn't give one example.




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Answer: Because progessive socialists,like yourself,don't allow it.


EXACTLY!!!!! Couldn't have said it better!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Why can’t everyone just live and let live?
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I don't know maybe ask the ever increasing government you like why that is. If you really believe in live and let live then you should have no problem with people opting out of things like SS and Obamacare. You should have no problem letting people consume whatever they wish as long as it hurts nobody else.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Well, live and let live, the way I tell you to live, through mandates & regulations imposed by unelected bureaucracies. AKA - modern day "freedom".  America used to be able to justify wars in the name of "liberating" people from oppressive governments.  Who is going to liberate us?


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Well, live and let live, the way I tell you to live, through mandates & regulations imposed by unelected bureaucracies. AKA - modern day "freedom".  America used to be able to justify wars in the name of "liberating" people from oppressive governments.  Who is going to liberate us?


LMAO!  >
Cicero is 'oppressed', and needs 'liberating'!


OMG!  What a 'victim'!!!


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LMAO!  >
Cicero is 'oppressed', and needs 'liberating'!


OMG!  What a 'victim'!!!


I live in a nation whose president orders drone strikes to execute it's own citizen and his young son without providing evidence or justification to a neutral court, and it is celebrated by the political establishment and power elites.  We enforce "law" just like the regimes and tyrants we overthrow - by executive decree.  Now, there is a law on the books legalizing the indefinite detainment of U.S. Citizens without due process of law...again, cheered by both establishment elites on the left and right.  America's laws and actions would make president Assad envious.


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I live in a nation whose president orders drone strikes to execute it's own citizen and his young son without proving evidence or justification to a neutral court, and it is celebrated by the political establishment and power elites.  We enforce "law" just like the regimes and tyrants we overthrow - by executive decree.  Now, there is a law on the books legalizing the indefinite detainment of U.S. Citizens without due process of law...again, cheered by both establishment elites on the left and right.  America's laws and actions would make president Assad envious.


YUP!  He's oppressed all right!  
Contact the ACLU at :http://www.aclu.org/



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YUP!  He's oppressed all right!  
Contact the ACLU at :http://www.aclu.org/



ACLU is powerless against a nation whose legislators don't recognize the Constitution and it's own legal proceedures like due process.  This is a political problem.


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I agree!
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to pay for social security.
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to pay for obamacare.
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to pay for things we don't believe in or utilize!
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to eat certain foods!
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to attend certain under achieving schools!
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to experience a 'free feel' before we board a plane!

Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing unconstitutional laws on us!!!!
Let the socialist elitists and the dumbed down, irresponsible, can't think for themselves, lead around by their nose folks live the way they want and let us independent, responsible, self thinking folks live the way we want.......FREE AND WITH OUR LIBERTIES!

Buck said it the best.........
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Answer: Because progessive socialists,like yourself,don't allow it.



When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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I agree!
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to pay for social security.
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to pay for obamacare.
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to pay for things we don't believe in or utilize!
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to eat certain foods!
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to attend certain under achieving schools!
Let me and my family live and let live WITHOUT forcing us to experience a 'free feel' before we board a plane!




If you want to live in a country with out a government... then move to Somalia... they barely have any govt.
You'd love it there.  The govt doesn't force  you do to anything

Poor baby...
Doesn't want to pay for HIS social security... but when he's broke and starving...the rest of us will be FORCED
to pay to keep him alive.  He doesn't deserve it, but in America we actually take care of our starving citizens.
Somalia doesn't ... move there!

Poor baby...
Doesn't want to pay for HIS ObamaCare, but when he's sick and will die without Obamacare provided
health care, the rest of us will pay for him... even though he doesn't deserve it.
Somalia doesn't take care of their sick... they are FREE to die.  Move there.

Poor baby...
Doesn't want to pay for HIS society's needs... But he will use these facilities and cry about paying every dime.
Somalia has no govt programs... and not much of anything... You Don't Want a govt, Move there.

Poor baby...
He claims that he is (listen to this) FORCED TO EAT CERTAIN FOODS! Exactly what food are you FORCED TO
EAT???  
Somalia doesn't have this problem.  People there eat roaches, rotten meat... just about everything and...
NO ONE IS FORCED TO EAT ANYTHING... In fact they will let you starve.  Move there.

Poor baby...
He's FORCED to attend certain under achieving schools! Really?  Schools are locally administered and locally
controlled.  If you don't like the school district you are in... MOVE.
Somalia has almost NO SCHOOLS.  It wouldn't be a problem for you there... MOVE THERE.

Poor baby...
Doesn't want to be screened before boarding a plane for his own safety...
GO to Samalia... bombs there are not only on planes, but on boats, cars busses... AND YOU ARE FREE TO BOARD
ALL OF THEM WITH OUT A SEARCH.
Somalia has no screening, or much of anything else. But it does have the one thing you crave...SMALLER
GOVT.  Move there.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Let the socialist elitists and the dumbed down, irresponsible, can't think for themselves, lead around by their nose folks live the way they want and let us independent, responsible, self thinking folks live the way we want.......FREE AND WITH OUR LIBERTIES!



They can't do that because they rely on us to carry the burden to create their utopia. If people were allowed to opt out of SS the ponzi scheme would collapse and they know that. If we were able to opt out of Obamacare or other socialised programs they know they couldn't transfer enough wealth to keep it sustainable.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Box,

If I go to Somalia, I STILL have to worry about the U.S. government, since they not only force their own citizens but exert their force onto the citizens of other nations.  sh*t...That includes Somalia - remember black hawk down?  That was a Clinton job.  Failed one at that.

Box hails the emperor and the empire...As long as a Democrat control the White House...As soon as the White House switches from (D) to (R), so will boxes rhetoric, and I assure you, he/she will be called a war criminal, and the Patriot Act and eavesdropping will be unconstitutional once again.


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Cic and Henry don't have to put up with this INTOLERABLE  big govt any longer... Leave!
No Social Security in Somalia is there... (no security of any kind, but that's what you get with Smaller Govt)

In Somalia you can live your dream...  independent, responsible, self thinking folks live the way we want
Believe me, no govt will impose on your freedoms.  It will be just FREE you and the rest of a FREE society, with
absolutely NO GOVT INTRUSION IN YOUR LIFE.  NONE!
NO COPS, NO HEALTH CARE, NO TAXES... NONE!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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If you want to live in a country with out a government... then move to Somalia... they barely have any govt.
You'd love it there.  The govt doesn't force  you do to anything



America was founded on the principle that the government couldn't FORCE you to do anything. If you want a government that can FORCE you to do anything then doesn't that go against the live and let live argument. Oh but I get it you just said that because it fit your agenda, those who believe differently then you the live and let live motto doesn't apply, hypocrite >



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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