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Box A Rox
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Lawrence O'Donnell: The Single-Payer Solution

Lawrence O'Donnell started his show off this Wednesday evening by stating the obvious. If we'd gotten
single-payer, Medicare for all as a solution to the broken health care system in America instead of the compromise
which left employers in the business of providing insurance for their employees, we wouldn't be dealing
with this debacle of the Catholic Church fighting the Obama administration on whether they're going to have
to cover birth control in their health care plans.

As he noted, employers and the Catholic Church shouldn't be in the business of providing health care and
we should not be settling for a system that still leaves millions of Americans uninsured if they lose their jobs
and can't afford to pay for the premiums that are sky high when you're out there on your own.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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if we didn't have either morphing/evolving into the 'ape' it is now, more folks would actually be paying attention to the sh!t that is sold as food/supplements etc......

OH NO....in America we wait for a legislator/lawer to tell you it sucks......DIRTY DIRTY SHAME......

we get what we deserve, and we dont have to wait for 'heaven' for our reward.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If the a catholic 'anything' is taking taxpayer's money......then 'render unto Caesar'......

If it is a 'private catholic anything', who doesn't take taxpayer's money.....then they are not beholden nor under the law of Caesar.

Simple as that!!

The catholic's sold their soul to the government a long time ago by taking 'caesar's money'. they clearly can't start crying foul now!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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HEALTH INSURANCE 'technically' isn't Caesar......YET


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The Catholic Bishops must not have realized..when government creates “a right,” it can tell the people how to exercise it.

United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
3211 FOURTH STREET NE • WASHINGTON DC 20017-1194 • 202-541-3000 WEBSITE: http://WWW.USCCB.ORG/HEALTHCARE • FAX 202-541-3339
United States House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515
Dear Representative:
January 26, 2010


On behalf of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), we strongly urge Members of Congress to come together and recommit themselves to enacting genuine health care reform that will protect the life, dignity, consciences, and health of all. The health care debate, with all its political and ideological conflict, seems to have lost its central moral focus and policy priority, which is to ensure that affordable, quality, life-giving care is available to all......

Read Full Letter
http://old.usccb.org/healthcare/HC-Letter-to-Congress-012610.pdf


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When the government gives you money it's like borrowing from a loan shark, sooner or later you will pay them back with a very high interest rate or your soul.
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The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops urge Congress to Extend
Unemployment Benefits


The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is weighing in on one of the remaining items on Congress' to-do list. In a letter that
quotes Pope John Paul II, the bishops urged Congress to extend unemployment benefits for the jobless.

"The U.S. Catholic bishops have long advocated that the most effective way to build a just economy is the availability of
decent work at decent wages," wrote Bishop Stephen E. Blaire, Chairman, Committee on Domestic Justice and Human
Development. "When the economy fails to generate sufficient jobs, there is a moral obligation to help protect the life and
dignity of unemployed workers and their families."


LA Times
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/12/news/la-pn-bishops-unemployment-letter-20111212


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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"When the economy fails to generate sufficient jobs, there is a moral obligation to help protect the life and dignity of unemployed workers and their families."


There is nothing more dignifying than living off another man's labor through government force.


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There is nothing more dignifying than living off another man's labor through government force.


It's so funny that Cicero quotes "United States Conference of Catholic Bishops" when they fit his agenda...
(See post #34)
but then 3 posts later, he condemns the same group for their BIG GOVT thoughts.



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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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It's so funny that Cicero quotes "United States Conference of Catholic Bishops" when they fit his agenda...
(See post #34)
but then 3 posts later, he condemns the same group for their BIG GOVT thoughts.



I posted the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops letter showing the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church.  They SUPPORTED OBAMACARE...Now that the government program that they advocated for affects them, they oppose it.  The Catholic Church believes in BIG GOVERNMENT, as long as it stays out of their church.  Catholic leadership are much like government bureaucrats - government programs are great, as long as they don't have to participate in them.  They are always for the "other people".

Go re-read the post #34 where I linked the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops letter.  You obviously misinterpreted my post.


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The interviewer mentions the first law suit, filed by a Catholic TV network, and Gillibrand responds by ignoring it and bashing republicans. The woman has no backbone and is a political hack. First, being an attorney for the tobacco industry and now being Chuck Schumers bobble-head in the background bobbing yes to anything he says. Take a look at her positions when she was a house member and take a look at them now.  She better worry about her OWN re-election bid because her approval numbers in the state aren't too good.


As far as the birth control mandate, it looks like the WH has heard the noise, and will make an announcement today. it will interesting to see what "modifications" they will make.



















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"For a White House that has often been accused of trying to undermine Mitt Romney in the Republican presidential
race, the contraception debate is perhaps its happiest accident in that quest. After all, while the issue hasn't
exactly been fun to deal with for the White House, what better way to help a social conservative like Rick Santorum
in his quest to bring down Romney"?

(The White House’s convenient contraception controversy)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....g.html?wprss=the-fix


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Catholics have more pressing issues than whether women use Birth Control:

Sealed documents filed in the Archdiocese of Milwaukee identify at least 8,000
instances of child sexual abuse and 100 alleged offenders - 75 of them priests .


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http://www.jsonline.com/featur.....44pue-139044534.html


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