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Has anyone else reviewed the agenda for the 1/25 Town Board agenda meeting?   Looks like an oops instead of the actual agenda!
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ROTTERDAM TOWN BOARD
JANUARY 25, 2012
AGENDA
7:00 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
SUPERVISOR’S REPORT
PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS:
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
NONE
PUBLIC COMMENT/PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
(Those members of the public wishing to address the Town Board will be asked to sign in before
the meeting is called to order on the sign-in sheets being provided. Speakers will be called to the
podium in the order of their signing in. Persons recognized by the Chair to speak during privilege
of the floor shall direct his/her comments to the Town Supervisor as Chair of the meeting.
Persons granted the privilege of the floor shall first clearly state his/her name and address for the
record. Persons so addressing the Chair through the use of a prepared written statement shall
submit a copy of the same to the Town Clerk for the purpose of maintaining clear and accurate
official minutes of the Town Board meeting.)
INTRODUCTION OF RESOLUTIONS AND MOTIONS:
Res. No.
70.12 Authorize the payment of a stipend in the amount of $5,000.00 to James Longo, as
Deputy Department of Public Works Coordinator, for overseeing the daily operations
of the Water/Sewer Maintenance Department, for the year 2012.
71.12 Amend Resolution No. 39.12 adopted on January 1, 2012, to reflect the proper meeting
dates for the Town of Rotterdam’s Parks & Recreation Commission.
72.12 Call for public hearing to be held on Wednesday, February 8, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. at the
John F. Kirvin Government Center, Town Hall, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, Rotterdam,
New York 12306 for the following purpose:
Request by Daniel Karl to allow for the construction of a 16’x30’ open canopy
onto an existing 1,600 square foot motor vehicle repair facility located at 360
Gardinier Street in Rotterdam Junction, New York 12306.
CONSENT ITEMS:
Res. No
NONE
COMMITTEE REPORTS
MISCELLANEOUS
ADJOURNMENT
HARRY C. BUFFARDI, Supervisor
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DVOR is a member.

71.12      this commission is a joke....people who want to join and volunteer for their community are prevented from doing so

and only those in the "click" are allowed to participate.....it was said that someone who is not on the commission was asked to

sit in another part of the room.....are these meetings not PUBLIC  for everyone.....and being allowed to sit with the commission

is a privilege and all others are discriminated against??   everything is a joke.....and tightly ruled by the new REGIME

also, heard....HB joined the Sr Assoc of Rotterdam......another why...

HEARD THIS IN THE DONUT SHOP....
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Interesting, how many meetings have they had that aren't on the official schedule, and where is it posted?  Also, does our Town Clerk think that all of Rotterdam is on Zip Code, or does she just not care enough to pay attention?  RotterdamJunction is not the same zip code as Rotterdam.


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DVOR is a member.

71.12      this commission is a joke....people who want to join and volunteer for their community are prevented from doing so

and only those in the "click" are allowed to participate.....it was said that someone who is not on the commission was asked to

sit in another part of the room.....are these meetings not PUBLIC  for everyone.....and being allowed to sit with the commission

is a privilege and all others are discriminated against??   everything is a joke.....and tightly ruled by the new REGIME

also, heard....HB joined the Sr Assoc of Rotterdam......another why...

HEARD THIS IN THE DONUT SHOP....


ALL Parks and Recreation Commission meetings are open to the public --- the  9 voting MEMBERS of the commission are appointed by the town board to 3 year terms and ex-officio members representing various community organizations have been duly recognized by the commission.

The general public HAS ALWAYS been welcome to attend meetings of the commission but are asked to sit in the general seating area ----- much the same way that residents sit in the general seating area for Town Board meetings or meetings of any of the other commissions or boards of the town.   A person who is not a member of the town board can not just sit in the area reserved for town board members.

The only person to INSIST that she had to sit with the actual commission members -- is the same person who ripped the microphone out of the wall at a town board meeting when another resident was speaking and who before the January Parks & Recreation Commission meeting insisted on rifling through the private property of a member of the commission.    Disruptive  behavior, violations of individual's personal property rights and refusal to abide by simple rules such as sitting in the area reserved for the general public will simply not be tolerated.

And for the record -- no one has ever been turned away who has wanted to volunteer at Parks Commission events --- but the person who complains the most and says she has been turned away has actually never shown up to actually help out at these events .. even though she was given the same notice of the event as EVERYONE else.


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So, Mr. Parks and Recreations, when is the next meeting that is open to all those in town?


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have to wait for the person sitting on the throne to answer that.....and we all know who that is....

secondly, it has to be passed by the TB and put into a resolution to find out this very important/top priority info.

Come on...it's only a commission...not the freakin' congress...
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PUBLIC COMMENT/PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
(Those members of the public wishing to address the Town Board will be asked to sign in before
the meeting is called to order on the sign-in sheets being provided. Speakers will be called to the
podium in the order of their signing in. Persons recognized by the Chair to speak during privilege
of the floor shall direct his/her comments to the Town Supervisor as Chair of the meeting.
Persons granted the privilege of the floor shall first clearly state his/her name and address for the
record. Persons so addressing the Chair through the use of a prepared written statement shall
submit a copy of the same to the Town Clerk for the purpose of maintaining clear and accurate
official minutes of the Town Board meeting.
)Like hell!! I'd write notes on my arm and hand and read from that. Folks/spectators here have given a blow by blow, word for word statement of rotterdam meetings in the past right here on this blog.  Not to mention it is recorded. Get the video and watch it again for God's sake. Looks like rotterdam has ANOTHER bunch who don't know squat!!!! VIVA REVITALIZE AKA REUNITE ROTTERDAM!!!


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PUBLIC COMMENT/PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
Persons so addressing the Chair through the use of a prepared written statement shall
submit a copy of the same to the Town Clerk for the purpose of maintaining clear and accurate
official minutes of the Town Board meeting


Next thing they will be requesting is a thumb drive containing the file of your statement so they don't need to transcribe it.



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Bullcrap!! Let the TC earn her taxpaid $50K!! Perhaps she's not qualified.

Hell, when Eunie got canned, the 'fill in' did an outstanding job....yes?


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[quote=6Hell, when Eunie got canned, the 'fill in' did an outstanding job....yes?[/quote]

Absolutely!   But the "party" promised the TC job to DM.  

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The 'fill in' TC did an outstanding job right from day ONE. It appears that rotterdam's new TC is in over her head this time!! LikeI said.....another rotterdam bunch who don't have a freakin' clue!! Aren't there any smart, qualified people left in rotterdam? It is beginning to mirror the sh!thole city government!


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Are they going to have the police confiscate the notes?


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You have the right to remain silent....if you can't afford a lawyer, you will have one appointed...

that's what will happen when they confiscate the notes......but if it's written on your hands or arms.....golleeee geeeeee....
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