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GrahamBonnet
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OK, Ron.


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This is what bothers me.......drugs???

well beer and such are considered drugs in any Rehab center....if they are overinculged .

Can anyone be a closet alcoholic???  You bet....

that so many police these days are caught DWI....they are allowed to have drinks hours before they

start their shifts????....(read that somewhere)

How do you test for being an" overindulged drinking"  cop????

That is just as dangerous as someone using drugs.....and no one talks about that...
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How do you test for being an" overindulged drinking"  cop????



'Ideally' they should not have to be tested for drug use or alcohol use before they go on duty. The folks they work with day in and day out....who are trained to recognize these abuses and see it daily on the street.....should be the ones turning them in. First for their own safety...second for the public's safety.....and third, because it is against the law!

With just a 'little' bit of exposure to drug/alcohol abuse.....ya can spot it a mile away!!! REALLY!!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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That would be great but it will never happen, the big blue wall of silence will see to that.
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There are NO Police officers who can be proven to be doing ANYTHING illegal -- as much as the NNTP/GOP THUGS want to TARNISH the First Responders.......  If any one has ANY proof of wrong doing then they would be remiss in their civic duty should they NOT report it....... indeed casting such aspersions on our hard - working Officers is criminal and should be subject to prosecution - IMMEDIATELY!


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There are NO Police officers who can be proven to be doing ANYTHING illegal -- as much as the NNTP/GOP THUGS want to TARNISH the First Responders.......  If any one has ANY proof of wrong doing then they would be remiss in their civic duty should they NOT report it....... indeed casting such aspersions on our hard - working Officers is criminal and should be subject to prosecution - IMMEDIATELY!



So, you are saying that cops stealing drugs from the evidence lockers is NOT illegal?

So, you are saying that Kaczmarek and his drug business with Kerry Kirkham and the other 30 some people, that was not an illegal act, huh?

Guess the cops driving whild intoxicated is not illegal huh?



Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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So, you are saying that cops stealing drugs from the evidence lockers is NOT illegal?

So, you are saying that Kaczmarek and his drug business with Kerry Kirkham and the other 30 some people, that was not an illegal act, huh?

Guess the cops driving whild intoxicated is not illegal huh?



And are we being expected to believe that and entire police force didn't know Curtis was a drug addict on the take?

And they wonder why people are suspicious!


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Knowledge is power....evidently Ham doesn't know how to read ...

and just gives an illusion of what the world is about....

WAKE UP HAM......YOU'RE LIVING ON ANOTHER PLANET......

This is the real world....it's happened and still ongoing....

Not against the police...but no one is perfect altho Ham portrays everyone as PERFECT.in his

CROWD....
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So has the city been issuing W2s to the employees who use these vehicles?

Straight from the IRS

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/public_employers_outreach_guide.pdf


Government-Owned Vehicles

The personal use of a government-owned vehicle is generally a taxable fringe benefit. It may, however, be excludable as a de minimis benefit (infrequent and of little value). Personal use includes the value of commuting in a government-owned vehicle, even if the vehicle is taken home for the convenience of the employer (but see Commuting Valuation Rule, below). The value of the benefit must be included in wages, but withholding of income tax on the value of vehicle use is at the employer’s option. Social security and Medicare withholding is required.

All of your employee's use of a qualified nonpersonal use vehicle qualifies as a working condition fringe. You can exclude the value of that use from employee income. A qualified nonpersonal use vehicle is any vehicle the employee is not likely to use more than minimally for personal purposes because of its design. Qualified nonpersonal use vehicles include:
•Clearly marked police, fire, and public safety officer vehicles. The employee must be on-call, required to commute in the vehicle, and be prohibited from personal travel outside the jurisdiction.
•Unmarked vehicles used by law enforcement officers. The officer must be authorized to carry a firearm, execute search warrants and make arrests.
•An ambulance or hearse used for its specific purpose.
•Any vehicle designed to carry cargo with a loaded gross vehicle weight over 14,000 pounds.
•Delivery trucks with seating for the driver only, or driver plus a folding jump seat.
•A passenger bus with a capacity of at least 20 passengers used for its specific purpose.
•School buses.
•Tractors and other special purpose farm vehicles.

All Other Employer-Provided Vehicles
If you provide an employee with a vehicle that does meet the qualified nonpersonal use criteria, the personal use of the vehicle is a taxable fringe benefit. It is the employer's responsibility to determine the actual value of this fringe benefit and to include the taxable portion in the employee's income.
Example: A town-owned pickup truck is marked with the town name. It is not a police, fire, or public safety vehicle, or other qualified nonpersonal use vehicle. The employee is usually allowed to take the vehicle home because he is "on call." The vehicle is not a qualified nonpersonal use vehicle, thus the commuting is a non-cash taxable fringe benefit.

Special Valuation Rules
There are three methods that can be used to determine the value of the vehicle provided to the employee:
1)Lease value rule
2)Cents-per-mile rule
3)Commuting valuation rule
1)Lease Value Rule
This method is used if neither of the rules (2) or (3) below is used. It calculates

the value of the benefit by determining the annual lease value of the vehicle, as follows:
a) Determine the fair market value of the vehicle when first made available.
b) Determine the annual lease value (ALV) from the table in Publication 15-B, which is based on a four-year lease term. This value will generally stay the same for each year. If the vehicle remains in service after four years, it must be revalued and the ALV recomputed.
c) Multiply the annual lease value by the percentage of personal miles out of the total miles driven by the employee. This is the value of the taxable benefit.
2) Cents-Per-Mile Rule

The value of the personal use of a vehicle may be figured at 55.5 cents per mile for 2012 if the following conditions are met:
a)You reasonably expect the vehicle to be regularly used in your trade or business throughout the calendar year, or
b)The vehicle meets the mileage test. To meet the mileage test, both of the following must apply:
1.The vehicle is driven at least 10,000 miles during the year by employees.
2.The vehicle is used during the year primarily by employees. Consider the vehicle used primarily by employees if they use it consistently for commuting.
Regularly used in your trade or business means:
a)At least 50% of the total annual mileage is for your business, or
b)You sponsor a commuting pool that generally uses the vehicle each workday to drive at least three employees to and from work, or
c)The facts and circumstances indicate regular use in the business.

If you do not provide fuel, you can reduce the value of the personal use by no more than 5.5 cents per mile.
To use the cents-per-mile rule, the vehicles cannot have a greater fair market value in the year placed in service than a maximum amount determined by the IRS for each year (for 2012, $15,900 for cars and $16,700 for trucks).
3) Commuting Valuation Rule

Under this rule, you determine the value of a vehicle you provide to an employee for commuting by valuing each one-way commute (home to work or work to home) at $1.50. If more than one employee commutes in the vehicle, this value applies to each employee. Unless the employee reimburses this amount to the employer, the amount is included in the employee’s wages. This rule may be used if all of the following apply:
a) You own or lease the vehicle and provide it to an employee to use in your business,
b) For bona fide noncompensatory business reasons, you require the employee to commute in the vehicle,
c) You establish a written policy allowing no personal use other than commuting or de minimis personal use (such as a stop for personal errand),
d) Your employee does not use the vehicle for personal purposes other than commuting and de minimis personal use, and
e) The employee is not a government control employee. A government control employee is either (i) an elected official, or (ii) an employee whose pay is at least Federal Government Executive Level V ($145,700 for 2012).
Example: An employee takes a city vehicle home in order to avoid exposing it to harm. The vehicle has a city seal on the door and policy prohibits noncommuting personal use. If this is an infrequent occurrence (less than once a month) this may be excludable as a de minimis fringe benefit. If this is a frequent or regular occurrence, the commuting may be valued using the commuting rule because there is a noncompensatory business purpose for the employee
taking the vehicle home. If the vehicle is not a qualified nonpersonal use vehicle as discussed earlier, and the employee drives it home, there is a taxable commuting benefit.

To conform to the accountable plan rules, employees using a vehicle for business purposes (regardless of which special valuation rule is used) should keep daily records of business miles by keeping a log containing the following information:
a)Date
b)Mileage (beginning and ending)
c)Destination
d)Business purpose
e)Personal use mileage
f)Commuting mileage


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bumble once again sloppy with his facts - no evidence was ever produced Curtis was on the take.

No evidence produced that anyone knew he was involved in drug use
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bumble once again sloppy with his facts - no evidence was ever produced Curtis was on the take.

No evidence produced that anyone knew he was involved in drug use


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,,,,,,,,,,really?.....and the ex chief just happened to want to
be a nurse......hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......


the ONLY other option is 'undercover'......hahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


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Police image beats style
Compromise reached over what vehicles to buy for evidence technicians

By Lauren Stanforth
Updated 9:35 p.m., Tuesday, December 4, 2012
  


SCHENECTADY — For almost a year, City Council has refused to provide two police evidence technicians with Chevrolet Tahoes, citing concerns that the two Tahoes the department was hoping to buy are luxury vehicles.

But now a compromise has been worked out, and the police will get Ford Transit Connect vehicles.

After City Councilman Carl Erikson suggested police look into the Transit, which is designed primarily for commercial use, Assistant Police Chief Michael Seber agreed that they're better than the two old vans the evidence technicians now drive to crime scenes......................>>>>...............>>>>..................Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Police-image-beats-style-4091315.php#ixzz2EGx4HaJj
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Wow, all this chatter for a $6k savings??? Red herring for all the City sh*t which REALLY needs to be cut.

The police department has become the scapegoat for all the millions of dollars of waste the City keeps flushing down the toilet.

You're not fooling anyone you know McCheesy.
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REDHERRING.....it will feed the masses....forget the fishing poles


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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