I don't think anyone is laughing-well I hope not.

Makes your dribble very difficult to understand.

Of course not ALL cops abuse their authority.  And it is possible that this particular cop didn't use excessive force.  

My beef is, with the police always using the sympathy card of "because they have a dangerous job", and we "protect" the public, in order to explain away their transgressions.  The PD always finds justifications for their actions.  And if you speak out against the police department’s history of transgressions you can't hold that opinion because they "risk their lives".  The SPD has a poor reputation because of years of improper conduct and poor management.  

A good example of the mismanagement is Dwayne Johnson, that earned $168K, and he was discovered by the media that he was not patrolling the streets to "keep us safe" but instead at his mistress' house.  Are you kidding me?  How does a salary that high go without supervision?  If an employee I managed had more than doubled their annual salary, you bet your a** I better be able to justify that overtime.  These guys are out there doing whatever they want and nobody's watching them, and those that are in charge don't acknowledge the problem and fix it, but rather make excuses.  

The public needs to put pressure on the politicians running the government to correct this problem, not just explain them away.

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Tommy:  Public outcry had nothing to do with Ken Hill, Kyle Hunter, Karaskiewicz or Hafensteiner, Barnes,  Lawrence, or Peters.  So, your agument is not valid.

Cicero - you keep bringing in issues that had nothing to do with the assertion that IA has found guilty officers who have been fired and have received comparable criminal sanctions.

The question is WHY so many SPD officers commit the crimes in the first place.  Why do officers the work for the SPD break the law at a much higher rate than other police department?  THESE ARE NOT VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENT POLICY but CRIMES.   They break the laws that they were sworn to uphold.  

The police chief was arrested for being a drug mule.  He didn't get caught by the SPD but by the State Organized Crime Task Force.  You're telling me that the SPD didn't know anything about this?  They can make drug busts in Hamilton Hill, but they didn't know their chief was a drug mule? C'mon!

There is a culture of crime and a sense of being above the law inside the SPD.  I know you want to take the past 3 years and tell me it's all cleaned up, and that they are policing themselves much better.  But I know otherwise.  

In the SPD, the nuts are still running the nut house.

Many in the SPD knew that the police chief was doing drugs but the blue wall of silence prevented anyone from speaking about it.

Just like they didn't know that curtis was a crackhead!!! paleeezzzzzzzzzz

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Many in the SPD knew that the police chief was doing drugs but the blue wall of silence prevented anyone from speaking about it.

Yeah...And when this happens it becomes an established culture.  Then the union president realizes the leadership is unethical and compromised. Once that’s discovered, the person charged with managing the department cannot do so anymore and the rank and file leverage their knowledge of management transgressions against the top brass in the form of overtime abuse, crime, fraudulent workman’s comp, and even lucrative contracts.  The management is no longer fuctioning because they are now managing from a prosition of weakness.  

In a private company, once it is realized a certain level of management is compromised, they quickly remove that person from leadership.  It can be something like a DWI or name in the newspaper for a domestic abuse charge that ends a General Manager's career in order to protect the reputation and integrity of top management.

Cicero - the disproportionate amount of those types of incidents was not what I was arguing.  That is a valid point.

Mobile Terminal - and you have added what intelligent points to this discussion?

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Cicero - the disproportionate amount of those types of incidents was not what I was arguing.  That is a valid point.  

My argument is that IA is supposed to investigate misconduct or suspicion of misconduct.  In the SPD, it seems there is never suspicion of misconduct to prevent misconduct, it is always investigated after the misconduct.  This is either done knowingly or incompetence.

investigate a crime or offense before it happens?

Most of the offenses could not have been investigated beforehand because they were related to dwi or domestics

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investigate a crime or offense before it happens?

Yes, like Dwayne Johnson earning $168K working obscene overtime.  That didn't send up any red flags?  Nobody knew anything?  He was working as security for a gas station while on the clock and nobody knew?  The dispatcher didn't know, the officers working his shift didn't know.  HIS SUPERVISOR DIDN'T KNOW????

Who does the hiring, who does the screening, who does the training?  Why are these problems happening?  There is never anybody to blame, it's out of everybody's control.

Everytime another Schenectady cop ends up in the paper for criminal behavior, there are people out there like you visitor that tries to act like it's an isolated incident, regardless of the trend.  

There is a problem in the Schenectady PD...It is a culture...The culture of the department needs to change.  

There is corruption from the top to the bottom...........so who is going to rat on who first? It would be suicide! (opps that already happened)

One of the qualifications to be a cop is you must be able to turn a blind eye when told to!

cicero

stop making things up. who said it was an isolated incident?  I never said that.  Stop making things up.  

Dwayne Johnson should have been detected earlier. That is one case

bumble stay classy

but you can make that amount of overtime while rare if you work every opportunity.  the ot in and of itself is not
indicative of wrongdoing