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Making money from their son's mistake..sign me up...but taking responsibility that he's a thief...nah.

Listen, I don't know if this kid has a rap sheet...he's a minor and everything is sealed. BUT, it somewhat indicates that he doesn't have very good judgment, steals and doesn't respect authority as he ran from a cop (plain clothed or not).

If this was a first time offense...maybe a REALLY bad mistake...

But what if this is his 5th, 6th offense?

I'll say this, I don't think either he or any of his friends will be shoplifting from THAT Hannaford again.  
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If I was a drunk driver ...then yes. How many other people would I put in danger if I continued speeding.

This kid was drunk, fleeing from the scene of a crime and yes, I respect the fact that an off duty officer would take the time to catch him. Would this kid have done it again if not caught? A 16 yr old stealing BEER....something which is illegal for him to possess.  

If this kid hurt an innocent bystander, where would they be compensated from? NO WHERE!!

He'll have his day in court but I'd hate to send the message that by committing a crime, you can have a HUGE windfall....even when your underage and drunk.  


hoping for an officer off-duty or not....says ALOT about us as a society.....WTF!!!! THIS is the slippery slope of community VS police state........sorry......POLICE WRONG HERE....THIS IS AMERICA...
NOT THE KINGS FOREST...........

who judges the innocent
who judges the wrong

regardless of religion????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Listen, I don't know if this kid has a rap sheet...he's a minor and everything is sealed. BUT, it somewhat indicates that he doesn't have very good judgment, steals and doesn't respect authority as he ran from a cop (plain clothed or not).


I'll tell you what, if my son were to do something like steal, he would be punished quite severely, and if he were caught and arrested, I may even let him sit in the holding cell for a while.  

But, as we know, even the kids raised in the best of homes make poor decisions when they are teenagers.  A lot of poor decisions are made because of raging hormones at that age.  A lot of experimentation between the sexes is done over some cold beers or cheap wine at 16.  Let's be realistic.

But...If my son was getting chased by a grown man in plain jeans and a shirt CLAIMING to be the police, you bet your a** I'd tell my son to run like hell.  If that makes me a bad parent, so be it.  


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I'll tell you what, if my son were to do something like steal, he would be punished quite severely, and if he were caught and arrested, I may even let him sit in the holding cell for a while.  

But, as we know, even the kids raised in the best of homes make poor decisions when they are teenagers.  A lot of poor decisions are made because of raging hormones at that age.  A lot of experimentation between the sexes is done over some cold beers or cheap wine at 16.  Let's be realistic.

But...If my son was getting chased by a grown man in plain jeans and a shirt CLAIMING to be the police, you bet your a** I'd tell my son to run like hell.  If that makes me a bad parent, so be it.  


CHA-F'EN---CHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Good fight Cicero.....agree with you whole heartedly...

the crime was small...petit larceny ....not a murder,no weapons involved

the teen will get his due....what does it matter how many offenses....sounds like he needs REHAB..

and it's nothing new today for these teens to be drinking....happens all the time in any neighborhood, schools...etc.,

and always....NOT MY KID.....no one is perfect and the crime was petty.....and it's over ...and no one was hurt only

the Teen, allegedly....what happens in court is not for anyone to judge...

Courteous cops after handing you a ticket say.........have a nice day...see you in court.....smile ...that's courtesy... LOL
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Let's look at this another...potential way.

Kid trips while being chased and hit his own head on the asphalt...not from (what the lawyer claims) the officer smashing it onto the ground.

Still the cops fault?

Because the cop was chasing him and he tripped?

There are three sides to this story: the kids, the cops and somewhere in the middle lies the truth. I rarely take a criminals side - it usually ends up with a slippery slope in a worse direction.
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kid trips and hits their own head....WITHOUT BEING TOUCHED BY SAID 'OFF DUTY OFFICER'....I'm game and I'm reasonable......

other wise it's enemas all around.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Agreed.
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im not posting to change your opinion

im posting because you are wrong

anyone who thinks the IA officer was out drinking with the officers who were removed from Dept. has no idea what
they are talking about. Even if that was true nothing changes the fact that a lot of problem officers were removed
you asserted the officers would never found to be in the wrong after ten officers were fired.  your argument
conflicts with the overwhelming body of evidence
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You are saying that the overwhelming body of evidence show the SPD doesn't use excessive force and abuse there power?  I think I posted it somewhere that showed the SPD had one of the highest rate of reported police brutality.  


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Officer Richard Barnett served 15 months in federal prison after admitting in 2000 that he gave crack cocaine to an informant. 
Officer Kenneth Hill served nearly two years in state prison after admitting he gave a gun to a drug dealer in 2004. 
Ex-Chief Gregory T. Kaczmarek is currently serving two years in state prison for a 2008 drug conviction. 
Schenectady police Officer John Lewis faces misdemeanor charges for allegedly drunk driving, stalking his ex-wife, and damaging property. 
Officer Darren Lawrence faces charges in Colonie for allegedly leaving the scene of a 2006 accident after crashing a car on the Northway and fighting with his passenger over whether to report what happened. 
Lt. Michael F. Hamilton Jr. served a four-year federal prison sentence after a jury in 2002 convicted him of tipping off a target of a drug investigation. 
Officer Nicola Messere served a two-year federal prison sentence after a jury in 2002 convicted him of giving drugs to an informant. 
Investigator Jeffrey Curtis is serving a four-year sentence in state prison after admitting he stole cocaine from the vice squad to feed his drug habit. 
Officer Michael Siler was sentenced to two years in federal prison after admitting he gave drugs to an informant. 
Officer Dwayne Johnson is under investigation for spending time inside a Schenectady apartment while he was supposed to be on patrol. 
Officer Ronald Pedersen resigned from the Police Department in 2002 after allegations he roughed up a prostitute. 
Vice Squad Investigator Christopher Maher pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in connection with allegations he tipped off friend about a State Police gambling investigation.

This case involves disturbing allegations of police brutality. In the early morning hours of December 27, 1998, while at the Union Inn Bar in Schenectady, New York, plaintiff-appellee-cross-appellant Rebecca DiSorbo was arrested by defendant-appellant-cross-appellee Ronald Pedersen, a Schenectady police officer. Rebecca DiSorbo claims she was arrested only because she rejected his personal advances. Rebecca DiSorbo's sister, plaintiff-cross-appellant Jessica DiSorbo,1 was arrested shortly thereafter, and both sisters were transported to the police station where they allegedly were victims of heinous acts of police aggression committed by Pedersen and two of his colleagues, defendants-cross-appellees officers Matthew Hoy and Kenneth Hill. Rebecca DiSorbo alleges that she was choked, slammed against the wall, thrown to the ground, and struck while defenseless on the floor. Jessica DiSorbo contends that she was slammed into a door and was forcibly dragged through the station.


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Good Job SPD...Officer Pedersen has a history of abusing women stemming back to 1998...He is finally forced to resign(not terminated) after abusing a prostitute in 2002.Great job IA, I guess you never saw that one coming.  The SPD is a f'n toilet.  From the union president on down.  If they didn't wear uniforms, you wouldn't be able to distinguish between who was the criminal and who is the police.


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THIS TOWN NEEDS AN ENEMA


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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According to the 2010 Annual Injustice Everywhere: The National Police Misconduct Statistics and Reporting Project (they use FBI Stats),

Schenectady ranked #7 for "sworn law enforcement officers with the highest misconduct rates"

Of the 160 officers within the 61,087 population there were 15 reported incidents of misconduct(which is a rate of 9375.00)...

Not a good list to be on and certainly not a good statistic.

My apologies Cicero, looks as if misconduct is out of control in the City.
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