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Class is over for Planned Parenthood
Shenendehowa cuts ties with group after sex ed lessons spur complaints

By SCOTT WALDMAN, Staff writer
Updated 11:31 p.m., Tuesday, January 3, 2012


CLIFTON PARK — The Shenendehowa school district has kicked Planned Parenthood out of class.

For the last two decades, Planned Parenthood educators have conducted interactive lessons in health education classes in the high school and middle school. A few times a year, they teach students about abstinence, sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy prevention as a supplement to their regular coursework.

No more.

This fall, some parents pushed the school to sever its relationship with Planned Parenthood Mohawk Hudson. In October, a small group of parents raised objections after they learned some students were allegedly told that abstinence allowed for oral sex and that some high school classes had condom demonstrations.................>>>>..............>>>>.....Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/loca.....72.php#ixzz1iUiQy000
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Good. I don't want my tax dollars funding their operations or philosophy.

Parent's should be mature enough to teach their kids.
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Good. I don't want my tax dollars funding their operations or philosophy.

Parent's should be mature enough to teach their kids.


As usual MT misses the point.  We all want parents to teach their kids about sex...
BUT
The facts are that they DON'T!  

So for all those kids who's parents DON'T Teach Them... you offer those kids what PP used to try to prevent:
sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy.


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Once again, Political extremism wins out over common sense... and our kids will pay the price.


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Honestly Box, I am all for teaching sex ed...what I DON'T approve of is a group coming in and telling kids like my son or daughter that oral sex is akin to abstinence. If that was part of the schools sex ed class...the parents would be asking for heads to roll.

But somehow, when it's Planned Parenthood it's okay?!?

That has to be one of the poorest lessons I've ever heard of....oral sex is sex. You can catch a disease....let's not lie to our kids about that.  
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Honestly Box, I am all for teaching sex ed...what I DON'T approve of is a group coming in and telling kids like my son or daughter that oral sex is akin to abstinence.  



If you want to know what Planned Parenthood Calls Abstinence... (not what you posted they believe)  Just read
their definition of Abstinence posted at their site:

What Is Abstinence?
You may have heard people talk about abstinence in different ways. Some people think of abstinence as not
having vaginal intercourse. They may enjoy other kinds of sex play that don't lead to pregnancy. This is better
described as outercourse.

Some people define abstinence as not having vaginal intercourse when a woman might get pregnant. This is
better described as periodic abstinence, which is one of the fertility awareness-based methods of birth control.

And some people define abstinence as not having any kind of sex play with a partner.
This is the definition we use on these pages.

Being continuously abstinent is the only way to be absolutely sure that you won't have an
unintended pregnancy or get a sexually transmitted disease (STD).






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Yep, big promoters of abstinence (and must be great educators) - over 330,000 abortions in 2009 and >$400MILLION in tax dollars - subsidizing a company with $1 BILLION in the bank.

Occupy Planned Parenthood?
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Yep, big promoters of abstinence (and must be great educators) - over 330,000 abortions in 2009 and >$400MILLION in tax dollars - subsidizing a company with $1 BILLION in the bank.
Occupy Planned Parenthood?


Planned Parenthood has received federal funding since 1970, when President Richard Nixon signed into law
the Family Planning Services and Population Research Act, amending the Public Health Service Act.

   Title X of that law provides funding for family planning services, including contraception and family planning
information. The law enjoyed bipartisan support from liberals who saw contraception access as increasing
families' control over their lives, and conservatives who saw it as a way to keep people off welfare. Nixon
described Title X funding as based on the premise that "no American woman should be denied access to family
planning assistance because of her economic condition.
"

In the 2007–08 Annual Report, clinic income totaled $374.7 million and miscellaneous operating revenues
$68.9 million.  Approximately two-thirds of the revenue is put towards the provision of health services,
while non-medical services such as sex education and public policy work make up another 16%; management
expenses, fundraising, and international family planning programs account for most of the rest.



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Q&A with Randall K. O’Bannon, Ph.D.
Ignore Misleading Figures, Planned Parenthood Is “Big Abortion”

Editor’s note. Whenever questioned about the hundreds of millions the Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) receives every year in government funding, PPFA ducks, bobs, and weaves. At the top of its evasions is a multi-fold defense that attempts to demonstrate that abortion is a small part of what it does, bringing in barely enough to pay the utilities. Is this plausible? To those who don’t have the opportunity to closely follow the money and statistical trails, yes. But are they true? No! Contrary to the official PPFA line, its abortion connection has, if anything, been underplayed. For an explanation we turn to Randall K. O’Bannon, Ph.D., National Right to Life’s resident expert on Planned Parenthood. Dr. O’Bannon has tracked the activities of PPFA and its affiliates for us for over 20 years and has written dozens and dozens of stories and blog entries about the country’s largest abortion provider, which aborted 332,278 babies in 2009.

NRL News: Let’s start with this claim that abortion represents “only 3% of Planned Parenthood’s services,” the single most common PPFA defense. Where does this come from and is it in any sense true?

Randall K. O’Bannon, Ph.D.: If you were PPFA, above all you want people’s eyes distracted from the 330,000+ abortions you perform a year. How could you minimize its prevalence and its importance to your bottom line? (This is complicated, so please bear with me.)

By bundling services when it serves your purpose, and unbundling when it makes you look better. It arrives at this 3% figure by using some very strained mathematics, by counting everything given to, or done for, a given patient as a separate service. So if a young mom comes into a Planned Parenthood clinic for an abortion, she’ll probably also have a pregnancy test, maybe a test for an STD, and then may receive a packet of birth control pills after her abortion. So, is that one “service” or four? Planned Parenthood counts each of these as a separate service.

Moreover, this same woman coming in for an abortion may receive three, four, or more additional services, such as an ultrasound, an antibiotic, and an Rh type and hemoglobin test, all connected to her abortion visit. When counted separately, it makes it look like abortion was only one among several other more conventional “reproductive health care” services or procedures. [See PPFA’s 3/11 fact sheet on services at http://www.plannedparenthood.org/file/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf.]

PPFA offers the “3% of services” mantra day in and day out. It is accepted uncritically by the media. The figure is purposefully confusing. A much more understandable—and accurate—measure is to look at the numbers of clients, rather than the number of “services.” That tells a very different story.

Outside of places like National Right to Life News and NRL News Today, you virtually never read that the percentage of PPFA’s clients that receive abortions is 12%. As we shall see in a moment, that is important not only because it reveals its enormous investment in abortion, but also because abortions generate a hefty share of clinic revenue.

NRL News: So, to be clear, that means that nearly one in eight women walking through the door of a Planned Parenthood clinic receiving services has an abortion?

O’Bannon: Well, even that probably understates the abortion-related traffic to Planned Parenthood. In 2009 over 1.1 million women coming to Planned Parenthood had a pregnancy test. We don’t know what percentage of those were positive. What we do know is that of the services Planned Parenthood reported that would have involved pregnant women (abortion, prenatal care, adoption referrals), 97.6% were abortion.

On the PPFA Services fact sheet, Planned Parenthood says it provided services for three million people in 2009. That would mean roughly a third were tested for pregnancy. Considering how a woman can buy a relatively inexpensive pregnancy test from her local drug or grocery store, she must have had a reason to seek out Planned Parenthood. If the availability of abortion was the reason, that would mean that abortion was pulling in even more than the 12%.

NRL News: Even so, 12% of the business being devoted to abortion would be a significant percentage, would it not?

O’Bannon: That it would be. But to reiterate, abortion certainly accounts for a great deal more than just 12% as a portion of PPFA’s business, especially if you’re looking at it in monetary terms.

To see how significant abortion is to Planned Parenthood’s bottom line, there is no equivalency between a $15 pregnancy test or a $6 pack of condoms or $15–$50 packet of birth control pills and an abortion which runs $350–$950 for a first-trimester abortion [see http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/abortion/in-clinic-abortion-procedures-4359.asp].

Here’s some very basic math. At $451 (the Guttmacher Institute’s estimated average cost for a standard first-trimester surgical abortion), the 332,278 abortions Planned Parenthood performed in 2009 would represent $149.9 million—37% of the $404.9 million in clinic revenues PPFA took in for the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2009 [see PPFA 2008–09 Annual Report at http://www.plannedparenthood.org].

NRL News: That’s a far cry from the 3% we started with.

O’Bannon: And since Planned Parenthood clinics also advertise and perform more expensive chemical abortions, like those with RU486, and later surgical abortions, which average more than $1,500 at 20 weeks, that income and that percentage are probably much higher. One thing is clear from the data we have, data that comes from Planned Parenthood itself. In spite of the spin and the deflections, Planned Parenthood certainly is “Big Abortion”-- the nation’s biggest performer and most aggressive promoter of abortion.

NRL News: We know we have to be 100% accurate or the 99% that is correct gets tossed away. What are some common mistakes with regard to the data?

O’Bannon: Speaking in terms of Planned Parenthood’s “profits” instead of “revenues.” Another is to confuse its clinic or “health center income” with the total revenues of the organization. Planned Parenthood had total revenues of $1.1 billion in FY 2009, but only 37% of that came from clinic income. It got another $363.3 million in “government grants and contracts” and private contributions totaling $308.2 million, and another $24.5 million from other sources.

One thing people also need to do is to be specific. Don’t say that 90% of Planned Parenthood’s patients have abortions, because that isn’t correct. What is true is that in looking at those services intrinsically connected to pregnancy—abortion, prenatal care, and adoption—97.6% of those were abortion.

NRL News: Anything else you want to say about this 3% claim that Planned Parenthood has popularized?

O’Bannon: If I may, let me briefly mention three other related issues. First, PPFA is building up its abortion business in a major way (see the editorial on page 2). This is 180 degrees away from the organization’s attempt to act as if abortion is incidental to what it does.

Second—to borrow from the article I wrote that appears on page z—a secondary Planned Parenthood tactic is to argue that increased funding will enable it to reduce the numbers of abortions, but its own organizational reports don’t seem to show that.

The revenue Planned Parenthood receives in “Government Grants & Contracts” has gone from $165 million in 1998 to $363.3 million in the organization’s fiscal year ending June 30, 2009. During the same time, and at roughly the same rate, abortions have more than doubled at Planned Parenthood, from 165,509 in 1998 to 332,278 in 2009. All this while abortions in the U.S., as a whole, dropped by about 25%. To say that Planned Parenthood is committed to reducing abortions is to go against decades of evidence that shows the exact opposite.

Third, to return to the original question, we’ve shown that PPFA is heavily invested in—and derives enormous income from—abortion.

But even if abortion constituted “only” 3% of its business—which masks the truth—this organization boldly and unapologetically destroys over 300,000 innocent human lives every year, making millions in the process, and unapologetically defends its doing so.

This is not only an absolute corruption of the very notion of “health care,” it is a gross abuse of our most basic human rights, something that no civilized society should tolerate, much less pay for.


http://www.nationalrighttolifenews.org/NewsOnline/April-May2011/QandAOBannon.html
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I don't care WHO started funding it with tax dollars - it needs to come to an end. Period.
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I don't care WHO started funding it with tax dollars - it needs to come to an end. Period.


You may get what you want MT...
A epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases, unwanted pregnancy and an increase of the welfare rolls.  If that's your
agenda, then keep your tax dollars and enjoy the outcome.  


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From the TU
~ "Maureen Shifler, a district parent, was among those who pushed the school to cut its ties to Planned Parenthood.
She recruited supporters to her effort through the bulletin at Corpus Christi Roman Catholic Church in Clifton Park.
Shifler said a primary concern among the two dozen parents allied to her cause centered around the way abstinence was
presented to children and that some parents were not given proper notification about their right to opt
out of the coursework.


Once again, the Catholic church is interfering in public decisions.  If those Catholics who don't want their kids to
participate in PP programs... ALL THEY HAD TO DO IS ASK.
Their kids would have been excluded from the classes.


This story isn't about Sex Ed... This story IS about a few Catholics pushing their Anti-Choice agenda on the rest of us.
  The controversy  has little to do with kids or Sex Ed...  the issue is about ending Roe v Wade in America.  
The parents push their anti Choice dogma, and our kids will suffer the consequences.

Times Union
http://www.timesunion.com/loca.....72.php#photo-1993316


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One person, at one church used a paper bulletin to get a message out - that hardly constitutes the whole "Church" pushing an agenda.   But, it happens to be a tenant of the Catholic faith, so therefore it was appropriate, and a target audience.

But, it was a good attempt to try and bash the Catholics Tommy - nice job.  What you call "pro-choice" is actually what Catholics (and most Christians/Jews and other religions consider) consider it as "against killing".
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One person, at one church used a paper bulletin to get a message out - that hardly constitutes the whole "Church" pushing an agenda.   But, it happens to be a tenant of the Catholic faith, so therefore it was appropriate, and a target audience.

But, it was a good attempt to try and bash the Catholics Tommy - nice job.  What you call "pro-choice" is actually what Catholics (and most Christians/Jews and other religions consider) consider it as "against killing".


Bash the Catholic Church... I don't have to do that, they do a great job of that themselves.  
(I wonder if Catholic Priests get PP classes on using condoms to prevent STD's? )

Corpus Christi Roman Catholic Church in Clifton Park allowed it's bulletin to be used for Political Purposes.  You'd
think a church would be more interested in the the welfare of it's children instead of pushing their agenda on the
rest of society.
REMEMBER... No Child Is Forced To Participate In PP Classes.  All Catholics can withdraw their children from the
class...
  Had Corpus Christi Roman Catholic Church in Clifton Park printed that information in their bulletin,
they would have done their parishioners a service... instead they pushed their politics... and our kids pay the price.


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Don't like it? Don't bring your kids to that parish - it's easy.

On second thought, I sincerely hope you weren't allowed to procreate - even when you COULD.
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