[quote=29]I'm curious, if he is not using a city owner vehicle, not turning in for gas mileage on his personal vehicle....who is responsible if he gets into a accident while on city business?  Will his private personal insurance pay out?  Will the city have to be sued to cover the accident?

What he has to do is notify his private insurer that his vehicle will be used for business. His premiums will go up but they may
not cover him if he does not report the business use.  He will likely have to carry an increased liability amount or purchase a
separate excess liability policy.

He is exposing his insurer to an increased risk therefore they have the right to collect the proper premium.

Put that on your to do list Gary.

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sorry for the repeat posts

joebxr - my point is that there is a difference between an el;cted official and someone getting appointed to a goverment job.  taxpayers have a choice in the former, not the latter.  

That is another one of the many problems in America.  All the extra layers bureaucracies that have been built up around our elected representatives, that we don't even know who the hell is running the show.  Our elected representatives do nothing but campaign, they make no tough decisions, and they are not smart people.  There are soooo many bureaucracies with the autonomy to make decision, and our idiot elected representative are insulated from any repercussions.  We have idiot occupiers camping in public parks because they don't know where to direct their anger in this representative republic.  While our representative Judas’ are sitting in their ivory towers washing the blood off of their hands.

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cicero

and the privatre sector is blameless for the economic mess we're in?

Their blame lies in big business getting in bed with the federal government for special privilege and limiting competition.  So when they knew the dragnet was SO large and their impact of failure so great, they could depend on the crooked politician to sell to the people the necessity of a bailout on the taxpayers back - the "too big to fail" scenario.  A whole generation has been enslaved to debt for the benefit of the corporate bankers and bureaucrats.

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sorry for the repeat posts

joebxr - my point is that there is a difference between an el;cted official and someone getting appointed to a goverment job.  taxpayers have a choice in the former, not the latter.  and it should never cost the taxpayer more than it would have if someone without a pension was elected mayor.

not disagreeing

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benny

so are yo saying that someone who has earned a pension should never run for office?

Or are you arguing that they should forego their pension? (Because that would mean that they have to pay for the right to run for elective office.)

So are you saying that it is fair for someone to retire from a public job in there late 40s or early 50s collecting a pension base upon the highest 3 years salary.  They also reture and often get paid out years of banked sick time.  Also getting free healthcare for life.  None of this happens in the private sector.  Why because the companies would go bankrupt.  Pensions killed companies, that is why you dont see very many private companies offering them to their employees anymore.

Why not collect 2 pensions at the same time while continuing to work.  The way we han out pensions so early, it could happen if it isnt already.  

The voters are not aware in a lot of ways how government is run...and how corrupt and impossible to stop the personal agenda

train......it seems to be the norm these days.....89 votes goes to show you... 90 people didn't know the true picture of what would
happen if MCC was elected.   it was  well-planned ...all lawyers know the ins and outs of what they can do.....mostly what the ins are.

Maybe the average Joe would do better in an elected office.....learn and earn.....

Just wait...same thing will happen in Rotterdam......with the police running the show.....what a joke....and shameful.

Of course he can run for office. No one should have voted for him. He should not be able to access a retirement pension until he retires. Its a retirement pension not a jackpot for the ruling class. Another double dipper ala Paul Tonko and Jack McEnery. There is much more to the this issue which will come out in due time. The hypocrisy from the left is sickening. They b**ch and moan about the US Supreme Court picking George W Bush but when the NYS Supreme Court picks George W McCarthy and prevents a full recount of all ballots the same jump up and down about a big victory.

There are a lot of double dippers out there who keep getting elected time after time. Gary McCarthy is not the first and won't be the last.....unfortunately.

And they are not all elected officials.............
I worked for a guy many years ago who was receiving a retirement from the navy....who then joined the army where he also receives a retirement.....then took a state job and received a pension. TRUE STORY!!

Another relative who worked 10years for the county then went on to the state, who now receives both pensions.

It's done ALL the time and the taxpayer's can't sustain it any longer!

Wonder what the percentage of "Retired" workers who are working is?  Basically taking a job that could be filled by someone who is unemployed.

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Wonder what the percentage of "Retired" workers who are working is?  Basically taking a job that could be filled by someone who is unemployed.

MANY............cause there are many who can't afford to retire. And that was planned for the boomers! It's cost effective to keep them working as opposed to collecting social security that is bankrupt.

And there are many retirees that still just plain old enjoy working and their jobs. It keeps them active!

That's all well and good. State law needs to be changed to prevent these political pigs from raping the taxpayers. If you have a State pension you cannot access it until after your elected term. Enough political pigs from both sides of the aisle double and triple dipping. If nothing else it will get some of these fossil politicians to back away from the trough.

A law should be passed to keep Bob Farley from double dipping, too.

benny = it's a pension with clear guidelines re: elgibility.  I am not denying that their are pension problems.  But, if it does not cost you any more for a pensioner to serve as Mayor - it is not double dipping because the taxpayer is not paying out more.  The taxpayer is still paying the pension and the Mayor's salary.

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That's all well and good. State law needs to be changed to prevent these political pigs from raping the taxpayers. If you have a State pension you cannot access it until after your elected term. Enough political pigs from both sides of the aisle double and triple dipping. If nothing else it will get some of these fossil politicians to back away from the trough.

All a 'career politician' is is someone who knows how to steal taxpayers money in a way which will SOMEDAY be illegal, but right now it's simply immoral.

McCarthy knows he's doing the wrong thing but he simply doesn't care. His 'working together' motto does not imply that he'll EVER do what is in the best interest of the City taxpayers. After all, half of them didn't vote for him...I'm sure he'll find some way to get back at them.

One of the best books I read about the pension system was titled - While America Aged"   very informative