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I have a neighbor who was employed by the state and was something like a grade 15 personnel clerk or something, she left when her mother out of state became ill.   But during her time on the state payroll, she took her two children on a vacation to Disney World.   So, I guess you are saying my cousin should repay the money she spent on that vacation.

Does anyone know how Lindsey Lohans  court appearance went today ?   I heard she was getting off probation soon.

This thread is about "double dipping" -- I am not going to respond to off topic items and ... quite frankly I have said all I care to say about "double dipping".

We all know 'double dipping' is wrong as does McCarthy. Even Jennings was offended at McCathy throwing him under the bus...and why....because taking a pension while still working in the government is WRONG!!

And who will have the backbone to introduce legislation to end this? Anyone...Buehler...Buehler (thanks again Senders!)......

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

This thread is about "double dipping" -- I am not going to respond to off topic items and ... quite frankly I have said all I care to say about "double dipping".

You won't comment anymore because you are gettting yourself backed into a corener.   You keep making statements that are lies....you have not provided any proof whatsoever of the things you are statikng.    

Why to you continuously REFUSE to provide proof???????    Huh?    WHy do you REFUSE toi provide proof??????     Becaue you are FULL OF LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES!!!!!!!!!!

I do believe it's entirely possible that McCarthy is planning for some huge tax increases and/or fee increases and/or creation of new fees as mayor.

Why?

Bacause why else would he pad is income so much.  

And McCarthy is just an ignoramus, he claims he's saving the taxpayers money by taking the pension now.   He doesn't realize that in ONE TERM ALONE he will cost the taxpayers about a whopping $60,000 a year!!!!!!!!!!!!   It has been said in the news that he'll get about 60% of his final average salary and they referred to his final year as an income of about $105,000--which was he padded with OT.  So figure if the highest 3 years averaged $100,000, well, we all know how to calculate 60%    

Now if he didn't start this double dipping now, and he served one term as mayor, he'd still have the same final average because that's based on the highest three years and unless he puts a raise through for his mayor job, then his final average would still be the same at the end of one term.  But if he serves only one term as mayor, then he only has to wait one year for a raise in this retirement because it's 5 years after retirement that one gets a raise.

Surely he has ideas on how to budget in the city and he figures, if he double dips then he will be in a better position to pay for his own property taxes.   With such a fat income of roughly $160,000 a year from the taxpyers, hell, why not raise taxes?   Does he care about the financially struggling homeowners in the city?   Hell no.   Just a few months as only an acting mayor, he hikes the homeowners tax bill by about 7%!  

So McCarthy has padded his income in knowing that he is going to propose hefty tax increases and he is insuring that at least he can afford them and still afford many of the comforts of life.

And in so doing, he will also be blabbing in four years saying "see, I didn't raise my mayor's salary"

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Mayor McCarthy earned his pension from his career with the county and he will earn his salary as mayor.  I don't see any problem with him receiving what he is LEGALLY entitled to.    IMHO -- there is no need to further discuss this topic.

just because something is legal doesn't make it right
just because something is illegal doesn't make it wrong

Quoted from rachel72

We all know 'double dipping' is wrong as does McCarthy. Even Jennings was offended at McCathy throwing him under the bus...and why....because taking a pension while still working in the government is WRONG!!

And who will have the backbone to introduce legislation to end this? Anyone...Buehler...Buehler (thanks again Senders!)......

because Albany county is about to eat a government pile of TAXCRAP.....he better show that he is 'better' than someone

rule #4 always have scapegoat

Quoted from senders

rule #4 always have scapegoat

rule #3 always make sure when picking your scapegoat that he's either dead (and cannot defend himself) or that he's stupid (and won't defend himself)....

Quoted from rachel72

rule #3 always make sure when picking your scapegoat that he's either dead (and cannot defend himself) or that he's stupid (and won't defend himself)....

yup....apparently Mr. Jennings doesn't want to go the way of the cross for fear of being struck by lightening so he chose the stupid one.....

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Think before deflecting double dipping
By JORDAN CARLEO-EVANGELIST, Staff writer
Published 10:23 p.m., Thursday, December 15, 2011

Gary McCarthy narrowly got himself elected mayor of Schenectady last month, and shortly thereafter he may have gotten himself bounced from Albany Mayor Jerry Jennings' Christmas card list.

Facing heat after the Times Union disclosed Monday that the mayor-elect has decided to draw his public pension while also receiving the $96,700 mayoral salary, McCarthy quickly sought to deflect some of the swelling "double dip" criticism somewhere else.

To wit, the newly elected Democrat told The Daily Gazette Tuesday: "They tell me Jerry Jennings draws his teacher's pension."

Well... not so much.

"I don't know where he gets his information from, but he's wrong," a miffed Jennings responded Tuesday morning after McCarthy's remark became morning talk-show fodder.

Jennings said he learned about McCarthy's remark from aides who heard it discussed — unfavorably — throughout the morning on Paul Vandenberg's program.

Public employees who draw their pensions and salaries at the same time — branded double dippers by some — have become objects of scorn in recent years among fiscal conservatives and tax-weary New Yorkers, who argue they're gaming the system in a distasteful, albeit legal, way.

Jennings, a five-term Democrat, worked for two decades at Albany High School before he was first elected mayor in 1993. But Jennings said he has not yet begun collecting his teacher's pension.

A spokesman for the New York State Teachers' Retirement System confirmed that, noting Jennings has since transferred his pension to the state and local employees pension system run by the state comptroller's office......................>>>>..........................>>>>......................Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/loca.....30.php#ixzz1ggkX9j4h

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McCarthy games the system to give himself a 50 percent raise
BY ROGER HULL For The Sunday Gazette

Roger Hull lives in Schenectady. The Gazette encourages readers to submit material on local issues for the Sunday Opinion section.

    I lost this fall’s election to Gary McCarthy. Despite irregularities with absentee ballots in a retirement home, and despite the bomb scare in the high school (where I had my best showing), the election is over, and I accept the public’s verdict. What I cannot accept is the stunningly quick return to politics as usual.
    I called Gary as soon as the judge (inexplicably, in my view) denied a recount; I congratulated him; and I told him I hoped he would prove me wrong when, after he denied my son the right to campaign for me, I said he was fit to be a political operative, but unfit to serve as mayor. Unfortunately, his actions this past week again bring into question his fitness to serve.
    By retiring from his county job at the end of the month and then starting his job as mayor, Gary is giving himself (even after the 5 percent pay cut he agreed to during our debate) more than a 50 percent pay raise. The last mayor to try to raise his salary while in offi ce, Brian Stratton, had to back down until after voters had a say. Of course, that should happen here — but it won’t. Interestingly, had McCarthy announced his plans to double-dip before the election, 45 (or more) people who voted for him might have switched their votes, thereby producing a different mayoral result.
DYSFUNCTIONAL SYSTEM
    In the horribly dysfunctional political state in which we live, pensions under the New York State Constitution of 1938 can “neither be reduced nor impaired.” So police and firemen can, with impunity, “game” the system at the end of their service; convicted criminals like Steven Raucci can still draw a pension; and politicians like Gary McCarthy can milk the system.
    McCarthy says he is saving taxpayers money. Give me a break! As Abraham Lincoln famously said of Stephen Douglas, his reasoning makes as much sense as claiming a chestnut horse is the same as a horse chestnut.
    The incoming mayor also claims to be a Democrat. What is democratic in gaming a system to the detriment of taxpayers? What is democratic in giving yourself a 50 percent salary increase? Nothing, as far as I am concerned, and nothing as far as Schenectadians are concerned, based on comments I have heard and read.
    People throughout this city are hurting, and hurting badly. They need a mayor who understands the challenges they face and works on solving them, not one who understands how to work a broken system to his benefi t.
    As I tried to point out in the course of the campaign, a leader is constantly setting an example. During my 24 years of leading two institutions, I had a simple rule for everyone working with me: Do nothing that is wrong and do nothing that gives the appearance of being wrong.
LEGAL BUT WRONG
    McCarthy’s double-dipping effort fails both tests. While it may be legal under our misguided system, it is clearly wrong. If Gary wants to lead this city effectively, he should back off his bad decision and not “retire.” He may cite other politicians who have done the wrong thing (in the case of Jerry Jennings, McCarthy is apparently wrong), but he should do the right thing. That is what leaders do! And he should learn — quickly — what parents have long taught their children: One doesn’t get a second chance to make a fi rst impression.
    McCarthy takes office on Jan. 1. Between now and then, he should revisit his bad decision so that Schenectadians’ first impression of their new mayor is one of a person fit to lead. After all, that is what a real leader would do.

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U.S. Congress salaries and benefits have been the source of taxpayer unhappiness and myths over the years. Here are some facts for your consideration.

Also See: The 10 Wealthiest Members of Congress

Rank-and-File Members:
The current salary (2011) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.
•Members are free to turn down pay increase and some choose to do so.

•In a complex system of calculations, administered by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, congressional pay rates also affect the salaries for federal judges and other senior government executives.

•During the Constitutional Convention, Benjamin Franklin considered proposing that elected government officials not be paid for their service. Other Founding Fathers, however, decided otherwise.

•From 1789 to 1855, members of Congress received only a per diem (daily payment) of $6.00 while in session, except for a period from December 1815 to March 1817, when they received $1,500 a year. Members began receiving an annual salary in 1855, when they were paid $3,000 per year.

Congress: Leadership Members' Salary (2011)
Leaders of the House and Senate are paid a higher salary than rank-and-file members.

he chose 'THE ROAD'.....

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Newly elected officials' pensions in spotlight
Incoming town supervisor among pension recipients also earning new salaries
By LAUREN STANFORTH, Staff writer
Published 12:05 a.m., Wednesday, December 21, 2011

BETHLEHEM — Add soon-to-be town supervisor John Clarkson to the list of local government officials who collect a pension while also earning their new salary.

Clarkson, who retired from the state comptroller's office last year, will continue to receive his $91,373-a-year pension while being paid his $106,890-a-year salary to run Bethlehem.

The 55-year-old political newcomer said unlike other officials, who have been working in government at the time of their election, he retired well before he decided to run for office. Clarkson entered the race after Democratic nominee Kyle Kotary also got the endorsement of town Republicans. Clarkson defeated Kotary in the Democratic primary and again in the general election.

Schenectady's next mayor, Democrat Gary McCarthy, was an investigator for the Schenectady County District Attorney's Office when he narrowly won the election after an absentee ballot count ended Dec. 1. He has chosen to retire and collect a pension on his estimated $105,000 salary. He said he will save the city money by retiring because taxpayers won't have to contribute to his pension..................>>>>...............>>>>....................Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/loca.....90.php#ixzz1hARiz755

hOLEY mOLEY


This guy is wacked.....take a bath and get a job....then you can make statements .....you have nothing to substantiate your

outrageous claims....for far as I am concerned....being on the Rotterdam Parks committee does not warrant being an actual
taxpayer....from what I have read on this blog.....

jeez what a crybabyt hull is.. i lost but not because i am an idiot, but because of a bomb scare  etc... jeez get a life and move.