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Henry
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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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What a surprise, our Congress writing a law that is Unconstitutional.
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What a surprise, our Congress writing a law that is Unconstitutional.


that's because the plebs can smell their blood.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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The whole concept of what is being proposed is so crazy scary.... This is not a liberal or conservative battle but a right and wrong battle. Everyone on all sides should take note that our politicians are representing interests other than ours.
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remember Ruby Ridge,
Waco,
Fort Sumpter.


We didnt come this far to get this far.
   random 12 year old


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They have wanted this one for a long time.
They know their time is short.
They want to incite riots. the only way they can continue their lust for power is to draw the people out into the streets and fight them there.
ya know they almost got  me there.
I will not engage in battle with weapons.
But rather our weapons are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds and Spiritual wickedness in the high places.
They have waepons of mass destruction,
We have weapons oof mass instruction.
It is their job to kill ours to die.
Now we know why the so called commandant in chief is bringing the troops home.
I think the troops are smarter than he thinks.


We didnt come this far to get this far.
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NDAA Bill Controversy: So who is Considered a Terrorist?
By IBTimes Staff Reporter | December 21, 2011 1:45 PM EST

The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (NDAA) bill contains some controversial language that codifies the detention of anyone, including U.S. citizens, who is suspected of being a terrorist or supporting terrorists.

To be fair, the language of the bill specifically targets terrorists connected to "al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces." (But what does "associated forces" mean?)

Still, many citizens and advocacy groups are concerned that the U.S. government is increasingly using the label of "terrorism" to violate civil liberties. Of particular concern are the civil liberties that protect against indefinite detention without trial, seizure of assets without hearing and being monitoring (i.e. spied on) without warrant.

Moreover, the people targeted under the "terrorism label" are often only suspected (i.e. not proven) of terrorism or even suspected of only supporting terrorists.

For example, the language of the Patriot Act on domestic terrorists "is broad enough to encompass the activities of several prominent activist campaigns and organizations" like Greenpeace, Operation Rescue, WTO protesters and the Environmental Liberation Front, according to the ACLU.....................>>>>....................>>>>...................http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/271024/20111221/ndaa-bill-controversy-who-considered-terrorist.htm
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so who/what is a terrorist? I can't wait for that detailed list........hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.......I hope hollywood is in charge of making it and then the government will check it....

what an F'EN joke


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Obama Signs Defense Bill Despite 'Serious Reservations'

First Posted: 12/31/11 03:25 PM ET Updated: 12/31/11 06:22 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Indefinite military detention of Americans became the law of the land Saturday, as President Barack Obama signed a defense bill that codified that authority, even as he said he would not use it.

The National Defense Authorization Act states how the military is to be funded, but also includes a number of controversial provisions on arresting and holding suspected terrorists, which at first drove Obama to threaten a veto.

He retreated from that threat after Congress added provisions that took the ultimate authority to detain suspects from the military's hands and gave it to the president. Congress also clarified that civilian law enforcement agencies -- such as the FBI -- would still have authority to investigate terrorism and added a provision that asserts nothing in the detention measures changes current law regarding U.S. citizens.

Still, the signing on New Year's Eve as few people were paying attention angered civil liberties advocates, who argue that the law for the first time spells out certain measures that have not actually been tested all the way to the Supreme Court, including the possibility of detaining citizens in military custody without trial for as long as there is a war on terror.

"President Obama's action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law,” said Anthony Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union....................>>>>.....................>>>>.....................http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/31/obama-defense-bill_n_1177836.html
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Indefinite military detention of Americans became the law of the land Saturday, as President Barack Obama signed a defense bill that codified that authority, even as he said he would not use it.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Above read is .... just .... WOW!!!! WTF IS GOING ON HERE FAT BELLIED FOLKS......really?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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