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Council finds no place to cut city budget
Officials turn focus to adding, increasing revenue, fees
BY KATHLEEN MOORE Gazette Reporter


After going through every page of the proposed 2012 city budget, City Council members haven’t found anything to cut.
So they’re looking for places to add fees or increase existing ones.
“We’ve cut most departments to the bone already, so I’m trying to see if we can get more revenue,” said Councilman Thomas Della Sala, who is chairing the budget committee. “We need to fi nd more income.”
    Some of the city’s existing revenue lines might bring in more money than they’re anticipating, Della Sala said. But, he added, he believes some other revenue estimates are too high.
    “So I’m not sure how to balance that out,” he said.
    Council members are meeting for one last budget committee session on Monday at 5:30 p.m. They must approve the budget by the end of the month.
    Ideas to bolster revenue are already flowing. Councilman Joseph Allen suggested changing the way in which the city charges for false alarms from automatic burglar alarm systems.
    Police told the council this week that although they send the law department three or more addresses a week to be billed for false alarms, they never receive any revenue. They only send over addresses after several false alarms.
    Allen suggested the city charge every alarm user $15 a year, and then $25 for each false alarm.
    Fire alarms that go off for smoky conditions that don’t turn out to be fires would be exempt from any false alarm charge. Acting Mayor Gary McCarthy said fi refi ghters prefer to be called out to minor kitchen fires, even though most are put out before fi refi ghters arrive. Many of the city’s group homes and institutional living centers have fire alarms that automatically call the dispatch center.
    Councilman Carl Erikson is weighing the costs of hiring more employees to offset higher overtime.
    He noticed that overtime for deputy fire chiefs is budgeted to increase $135,000 next year because the city no longer has an assistant chief. The deputy chiefs are called in regularly to help with large fires, a role the assistant chief would have had. The assistant chief does not get overtime.
    Likewise, overtime for police and police dispatchers is going up.
    In all three divisions, it may have reached a point where salary and benefits are cheaper than overtime. “Hire more people,” Erikson said simply.
Della Sala added, “We have found [in previous years] that hiring more people saves money.”
No revenue stream is being overlooked, no matter how small. The council is considering raising the Music Haven event fee from $100 to $300.
    Council members found out this week that it costs the city $188 to set up and close down the stage in Central Park during business hours and $312 on weekends, when most events are held. Raising the fee to a minimum of $300 would be a step toward making the facility pay for itself. .........................>>>>........................>>>>................................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01300&AppName=1
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So they want to charge you for responding to certain calls or alarms, wow they should just privatise the fire department and police if that is the case


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Correction

"After going through every page of the proposed 2012 city budget, City Council members haven’t found anything they were willing to cut. "
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"After going through every page of the proposed 2012 city budget, City Council members haven’t found anything they were willing to cut. "


Not even all the free "company" cars that even the secretaries have with gas, and insurance already paid?


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Council members found out this week that it costs the city $188 to set up and close down the stage in Central Park during business hours and $312 on weekends, when most events are held.


After all of these years of working on these budgets....THEY JUST FOUND OUT how much this was costing the taxpayers??????? Granted.....it's minimal compared to the cost of other line items.....but they are supposed to be the care takers and the over sight for the taxpayer's money. What else do they need to 'find out about'???


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After all of these years of working on these budgets....THEY JUST FOUND OUT how much this was costing the taxpayers??????? Granted.....it's minimal compared to the cost of other line items.....but they are supposed to be the care takers and the over sight for the taxpayer's money. What else do they need to 'find out about'???


Don't fret Acting Mayor McCarthy has a new plan! Chase all concerts out of Music Haven. If you see any graffiti call a postal carrier. Don't bother Tim Conway with your complaints and concerns- lol,
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Are they reading this budget in the dark?

Can't cut anything? Humm, why don't they look at themselves first before taxing the homeowners more. I say, cut their health insurance that they get relatively free for being on the Council. They get paid ..enough said.

Have ANY of them looked over the contracts with the City workforce? How many Stratton-handshake deals are draining the taxpayers..still.

These people are so inept of change, of transparency or of due diligence that they are unable to do what's right for the overburdened taxpayers....again.  
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These people are so inept of change, of transparency or of due diligence that they are unable to do what's right for the overburdened taxpayers....again.  


   These DEM morons are too busy not solving the gang/pit bull/graffiti issues. Steal Roger Hull's idea and end the City car and unlimited cell phone plan. Everything is cut to the bone? lol. End nonprofit giveaways, abolish the Department of Development, layoff 10% of non-emergency personnel. Then make some real cuts. There's is no need to make any changes? We must continue brain dead City "leadership"that can't even file their own election financials.

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it is 'to the bone'


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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From the latest DEM joke mailer; "A feeling of success-the City is on the rise". WTF? Taxes, fees and crime is rising and you idiots call it a feeling of success. Keep repeating the lies and maybe someone will vote for you. 7% increase in a recession-Thanks for nothing.
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Council members found out this week that it costs the city $188 to set up and close down the stage in Central Park during business hours and $312 on weekends, when most events are held. Raising the fee to a minimum of $300 would be a step toward making the facility pay for itself.
    But Councilwoman Barbara Blanchard said the city might be going too far.
    “I’m afraid to raise the minimum fee too much because I’m afraid music groups wouldn’t book,” she said.
    Councilwoman Denise Brucker said it was worth a try.
    “If we find it’s cost-prohibitive and people are not booking next year, we can take another look at it,” she said.


How could they not know this? And a point of clarification, music groups ie; performers don't pay the fee, they get paid ( I performed there many times.. I was paid...didn't cost me a dime) the promoters of the musical events pay the fees ie; Mona Golub (Second  Wind Productions) not sure if the esteemed council folks know the distinction.  
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Cell phones and company cars are "to the bone."


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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How could they not know this? And a point of clarification, music groups ie; performers don't pay the fee, they get paid ( I performed there many times.. I was paid...didn't cost me a dime) the promoters of the musical events pay the fees ie; Mona Golub (Second  Wind Productions) not sure if the esteemed council folks know the distinction.  


They don't know from nuthin. Total dereliction of duty. They all understand the importance of high taxes. McCarthy has been on this joke City Council for 16 YEARS. Please list one accomplishment besides raising taxes 300%.
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SO let if F'EN implode......ENTERTAINMENT(fun as it is) IS NOT A FOUNDATION.....

COLA/CONTRACTS.....IDIOTS....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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These DEM morons can't budget. Horrid McCarthy already gave away the store to his only supporters-city unions. City property owners can all go to hell. Unbelievable that not one of these all DEM rubber stamps can find one cut in a $77 MILLION budget. Change is coming.
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