Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
HELLO AMERICA...ANYBODY HOME???  WAKE UP!!!!
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    United States Government  ›  HELLO AMERICA...ANYBODY HOME???  WAKE UP!!!! Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 127 Guests

HELLO AMERICA...ANYBODY HOME???  WAKE UP!!!!  This thread currently has 6,065 views. |
9 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 » Recommend Thread
Henry
October 9, 2011, 9:32am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
6,058
Reputation
85.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -3
Time Online
2114 days 9 hours 31 minutes
So Obama has 2 death panels now


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 105 - 131
Admin
October 11, 2011, 5:38am Report to Moderator
Board Moderator
Posts
18,484
Reputation
64.00%
Reputation Score
+16 / -9
Time Online
769 days 23 minutes
Quoted Text
Obama's War On Terror: Civil Libertarians Decry Being 'Stabbed In The Back' By Awlaki Decision
First Posted: 10/10/11 06:49 PM ET Updated: 10/10/11 09:48 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Civil libertarians are expressing dismay over a new report that names two prominent one-time critics of the abuse of presidential power as the forces behind a controversial memo authorizing Obama to assassinate an American citizen.

The memo, described Sunday in an article in The New York Times, was reportedly signed by David Barron and Marty Lederman, two law professors who frequently challenged President Bush's legal stances on his war powers before joining the Obama Office of Legal Counsel.

"It's always more painful for civil libertarians to be stabbed in the back by a friend," said Jonathan Turley, a scholar at George Washington University law school who has long been a fierce opponent of expansive interpretations of executive powers. "There's a real feeling of the Ides of March, that the Obama administration has enlisted civil libertarians to sort of do its dirty work."..................>>>>........................>>>>..................http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/10/obamas-war-on-terror-awlaki_n_1004161.html
Logged
Private Message Reply: 106 - 131
CICERO
February 18, 2012, 4:06pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 107 - 131
Box A Rox
February 18, 2012, 4:22pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes


America citizens Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parkier were shot and killed in an ambush after numerous attempts
capture the duo alive ended in the killing of police and innocent civilians.

The pair were wanted in 100 or more felony criminal actions during her two-year career in crime including eight
murders, seven kidnappings, half-a-dozen bank robberies, scores of felony armed robberies,
countless automobile thefts, one major jailbreak and an episode of assault and battery at a time
when being a "habitual criminal" was a capital offense in Texas.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 108 - 131
CICERO
February 18, 2012, 4:53pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
There were arrest warrants issued.  I don't understand your point?

Have they disclosed Al Awlaki's evidence that constituted a death sentence?  Oh, that's right, it was a top secret covert operation carried out by the CIA.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 109 - 131
Box A Rox
February 18, 2012, 5:40pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Quoted from CICERO
There were arrest warrants issued.  I don't understand your point?

Have they disclosed Al Awlaki's evidence that constituted a death sentence?  Oh, that's right, it was a top secret covert operation carried out by the CIA.

Both were dangerous American citizens that couldn't be apprehended by more typical means without endangering
US officers.  Neither had been tried or convicted, and both had proven themselves to be dangerous.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 110 - 131
Box A Rox
February 18, 2012, 5:59pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
On tonights CBS news there was a report about a terrorist suspect who attempted to blow up the US Capitol.
As the report continued, the topic of why there are markedly fewer of this type of attacks in the last year.  The
reply was that Anwar al-Awlaqi, who was a major factor in these type of attacks, was killed in a Predator attack
in Yemen.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 111 - 131
CICERO
February 18, 2012, 6:21pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
Yes, they were dangerous, and they have court records proving it...with arrest warrants, grand jury trials, prison, prison escapes.  You know, and all that other useless due process.  In hindsight, box would have droned Clyde after committing his first robbery, no trial necessary.  

If you believe in due process, you support career criminals like bonnie and Clyde.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 112 - 131
senders
February 19, 2012, 9:26am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox
On tonights CBS news there was a report about a terrorist suspect who attempted to blow up the US Capitol.
As the report continued, the topic of why there are markedly fewer of this type of attacks in the last year.  The
reply was that Anwar al-Awlaqi, who was a major factor in these type of attacks, was killed in a Predator attack
in Yemen.


fewer because of less reporting


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 113 - 131
Box A Rox
February 19, 2012, 9:49am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Quoted from senders


fewer because of less reporting


Of course it is... of course.  It's always the conspiracy, never the fact.

But suppose there actually were less attacks... how could you tell between the conspiracy and the facts???  Or
doesn't it matter for you?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 114 - 131
CICERO
February 19, 2012, 9:59am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


Of course it is... of course.  It's always the conspiracy, never the fact.

But suppose there actually were less attacks... how could you tell between the conspiracy and the facts???  Or
doesn't it matter for you?


I guess Bush's "war on Islamic terrorism" works.  Gitmo worked, and "enhanced" interrogations worked, and warrantless wiretapping worked.  They need to book box on the Hannity Show discussing Bush terror policy success.  

Box is a good foreign policy neocon.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 115 - 131
bumblethru
February 19, 2012, 11:43am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


Of course it is... of course.  It's always the conspiracy, never the fact.


You can't state a FACT.....when it is never reported in the first place...


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 116 - 131
Box A Rox
February 19, 2012, 11:46am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
25,926
Reputation
58.62%
Reputation Score
+17 / -12
Time Online
514 days 11 hours 54 minutes
Quoted from bumblethru


You can't state a FACT.....when it is never reported in the first place...


And it's not 'reported in the first place'... because of the MSM conspiracy... probably orchestrated by Socialists
like Obama!
Of course it is!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 117 - 131
CICERO
February 19, 2012, 12:37pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
18,232
Reputation
68.00%
Reputation Score
+17 / -8
Time Online
702 days 15 hours 7 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


And it's not 'reported in the first place'... because of the MSM conspiracy... probably orchestrated by Socialists
like Obama!

Of course it is!


And if it was reported by FOX News that terror attacks were UP...You of course would go on one of your FOX rants saying Foxsnooze, blahh..blahh..l.blahh...vast right wing conspiracy.  Blah, Blah, Blah...Koch Brothers, Blah, Blah, Blah...

It really doesn't matter if it wasn't reported, if it was reported, or who reports it...It is all propaganda fodder used to support or oppose a political argument.

One fact that cannot be denied is this...The president targeted a U.S. citizen for assassination without due process on claims of imminent threat. Yet we have not one shred of evidence from this administration proving imminent threat.  And we have Obama cheerleaders defending assassinations of U.S. citizens and the death of due process for that matter.  And this wasn't reported by a bias media outlet, the administration flaunted it with a press announcement.  And American's like box sat their nodding their heads in approval like good lemmings.

First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. \
Then they came for the "Terrorist", but I was not a terrorist so I did not speak out
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 118 - 131
senders
February 19, 2012, 3:46pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
29,348
Reputation
70.97%
Reputation Score
+22 / -9
Time Online
1574 days 2 hours 22 minutes
Quoted from Box A Rox


Of course it is... of course.  It's always the conspiracy, never the fact.

But suppose there actually were less attacks... how could you tell between the conspiracy and the facts???  Or
doesn't it matter for you?


it matters....that's why I always question....and conspiracy as an actual thought out process as a whole I dont agree with....it's the small simple changes/acceptances that are so insidious
that they add up, so to speak....muddying the waters so as not to see the original intent/desired outcome....kind of like underwater splunking.....

back up for back up for back up and more back up......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 119 - 131
9 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 » Recommend Thread
|

Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    United States Government  ›  HELLO AMERICA...ANYBODY HOME???  WAKE UP!!!!

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread